Talk:CentralNotice/Log

Have someone write a proper logging feature for this extension. It's 2010; this is ridiculous. --MZMcBride 02:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

It's being written, this is just for in the meantime. Cbrown1023 talk 02:35, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Wanna bet? --MZMcBride 06:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

You can look at the recentchanges. --Nemo 06:28, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to comment on the bug #16978. --Az1568 (talk) 06:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Done Jalexander 23:06, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

june 2011 - wikimania

(copied from the log Effeietsanders 11:00, 15 June 2011 (UTC))

• 13-23 June: campaign Registration for Wikimania 2011 - visible to anonymous users only for the first 5 days, requested by Itzik Edri. LeinaD (t) 21:07, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I saw your message right after I limited the banner to logged-in users. Nevertheless, I think that Itzik should justify and discuss this beforehand. I for one don't think this is of any interest to most of our 400 million readers. Most of those who typically would consider attending Wikimania, are already informed or logged-in.
Also, the banner seems to be broken for some browsers with limited SVG support, e.g. firefox 3.6 --Church of emacs talk · contrib 00:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the image problem by replacing it with a PNG --Church of emacs talk · contrib 00:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

aye, I don't have a huge issue with anon (though I think only for a day or 2) but I think it would be much better to reduce this to at least 25% if not lower. 100% for everyone is really VERY high and really only serves to get it dismissed (and make sure they don't see any other banners for 2 weeks) then actually get more eyes on it. James (T C) 00:50, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree with my colleagues. 100% usage is extreme for this. Assuming 400 people attend we are talking about blasting a notice to 400 million... So it reaches one in 1,000,000, and many of the 400 have already made up their mind. This strikes me as injudicious. Philippe (WMF) 01:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm wondering again how only until last year it was ok to publish registration to Wikimania also for anonymous - and this year it's not ok. But I do not want to argue about this issue again. We had the same problem with CFP and any other message for Wikimania 2011 - that time after time been "punished" this year because of excessive use of the CentralNotice lately by other. If someone can please turn it for anonymous on how many percent that he think will be right, it will be great. thanks. --Itzike 11:56, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Bad decisions in the past do not mean we need to make bad decisions now :) I think the issue is mostly that we want to be more careful and part of that is bad decisions in the past and part of that is that it is becoming an 'expected' thing for a lot of groups and that isn't good. Please don't think it's you being "punished" either because of what you are doing or because what others are doing. It is trying to find a better balance. In the past no one really sought to pay any attention to it and it wasn't "that" bad because not enough people were using it yet. Now they are and it has become more and more annoying and frustrating to users and in this case, as Philippe said, the benefit level is very small for the relative annoyance.

It's been up for a couple days now at 100% for logged in (COE had it off for anon) and I think we can probably bump it down a bit but I'll leave that to someone else. James (T C) 22:06, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

And still - Can someone enable it for anon users, on whatsoever present he think for? --Itzike 05:12, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Maybe there is a compromise. Most potential attendees are informed via (logged-in) centralnotices. I could see two types of people who may wish to attend Wikimania and miss the information nevertheless. Those are:
a) People who are active on other Wiki projects (Wikihow, Wikia, Wikitravel, etc.).
b) People who live near Haifa and are generally interested in Wikis and the Wikimedia movement but not active themselves. Due to their proximity, attendance is cheaper for them, so they might consider it.
Now, concerning a): Is there a list of contact persons for Non-Wikimedia wikis? We could forward the necessary information and ask them to publish it in their wiki's newspaper / village pump. Concerning b): I guess we could run a campaign geo-targeted at people living near Haifa (or simply in all of Israel) for a few days. It'd be good to have a special banner and a special landing page, since the intended audience doesn't know what Wikimania is and why it should consider attending. --Church of emacs talk · contrib 10:51, 15 June 2011 (UTC) Ps.: Will there be a post on WMF's blogs People who are interested in Wikimedia but don't have accounts might look there…

I think Wikimania is enough important, to allow everyone to know that it happen - and not limited to Wikia people. I think it's more then fair - to at least for 3-4 days, run banners also for anon on a low percent (even 10%.. something!). We have other banner plan for people from Israel to run later. --Itzike 11:40, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

<-- I'm still a bit skeptical but I think that's an ok compromise. I'll adjust it to 10% for anons. I think I'm going to adjust the logged in down a bit too (just since it's been at 100% for a couple days already) and put that at 25%. If you guys disagree feel free to change it (there will be 2 blank banners 1 for anon and one for logged in. Banner itself at Weight 10 for both logged in and logged out. Anon blank at 90, setting the banner at 10% anon. Logged in blank at 30, setting the Banner at 25%). Jalexander 05:02, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Itzike 09:15, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry James, but did you not read my proposal or did you just choose to ignore it? --Church of emacs talk · contrib 12:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)