Talk:Affiliate-selected Board seats/2019/Voting

You are welcome to leave feedback on this page. User:Elitre (WMF) and User:Qgil-WMF will be able to consider any changes to be made to the survey from April 29 on. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 10:36, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Feedback from test

User:Qgil-WMF, I got this email: The only issues are it isnt instantly clear that the votes have been submitted, suggest a colour change on the boxes or some other screen change, and an option to close the window/tab would be nice. [...] Outside of that from my end it worked well. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 08:27, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

@Elitre (WMF): After voting a message appears at the top saying "We thank you for your time spent taking this survey. Your response has been recorded." If this isn't enough, I can investigate how can that message can be styled to make it more prominent.Qgil-WMF (talk) 10:56, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Qgil-WMF, if that's trivial, please do. Otherwise we'll document what happens after voting, so that they're more aware. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 14:40, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Feedback from voting instance

Please add any feedback about the current voting here. If anything isn't working as expected, please ping Quim and me here and we'll take care of things ASAP. Thank you, --Elitre (WMF) (talk)

1. User:Qgil-WMF, I've been told that "clicking the official vote link opens a page at wikimedia.qualtrics.com with the header "An ASBS voting test". I have now gone and fixed this from the survey options, it'd be great if you can double-check that that was indeed the only place that had that placeholder text. Thanks. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 02:29, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
   1. Elitre (WMF) I am very sorry for this mistake. The references to the test were removed in all the other messages involved.Qgil-WMF (talk) 04:13, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
2. Would it be possible to use a dropdown box instead of a free input field for the ranking? That would definitely help reduce the mistakes made when entering the numbers. Best, Philip Kopetzky (talk) 12:44, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
   1. Hey - that was evaluated as an option - as you can see from the FAQ page though, decimals are accepted, so the dropdown would really be unfeasible. By all means, if there's agreement on a shorter list of options and interest in using Qualtrics in the future, then that could certainly change. Thanks, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:16, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
      1. If they're getting rounded anyway (and it should be clarified what happens with a .5 decimal), how is that unfeasible? Philip Kopetzky (talk) 08:58, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
         1. Getting rounded happens afterwards. You can still add any decimals. So that would mean a dropdown list of 100 or something items, per candidate. And fat-fingering is a thing :) I can surely list all options that could be considered (for instance, I was initially looking into drag and drop for ranking, but turns out it's not good on the accessibility side :/ ), those would be for the next selection though. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 16:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
            1. I guess Quim's answer below makes sense :-) Philip Kopetzky (talk) 08:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
         2. Philip Kopetzky, let me provide a bit more of technical context. For this form we are using Qualtrics' question type "Rank Order". It offers different types of user interfaces for voters, and none of them is a dropdown. After several tests on desktop and mobile for a number of candidates and options like this case, we concluded that Text Box was the most suitable option.--Qgil-WMF (talk) 22:34, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
            1. Thanks Quim, that's quite surprising, but I guess there's nothing that can be done about that :-( Philip Kopetzky (talk) 08:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
3. Hi, I think we should quickly translate the voting email into other languages. and give voters the possibility to change their vote in at least one or two essays.--Mohammed Bachounda (talk) 14:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
   1. Ciao, the email is already out, so for this run it wouldn't help anyone to have it translated, although of course that can be considered for the future! Some other things to evaluate:
   • • We had a test with some 30 people from the ASBS mailing list, and nobody mentioned language as a barrier. While myself I was thinking this would come up, I also understood that English proficiency has been a factor in some groups to pick who the voter is gonna be.
     • As mentioned, we had a test, and the purpose was exactly allowing people to experience all aspects of the real vote, and at the same time avoiding that they considered the real instance as a "sandbox", as it really shouldn't be one.
     • Can you elaborate more on why you feel that people should be allowed to change their vote directly? I would argument that their vote isn't personal - it's the expression of the group's will, so it should be a decision that the group has locked and the voter simply executes; also, the ability to change does open the possibility of getting external pressure about it - be it from candidates or from other organizations that really want a specific person to win. Thanks! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:16, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Problems when voting

1. Hi! I tried to vote but I get the following error: "Your vote is not valid. Boxes must contain a number between 1 and 11 or be left empty." According to the instructions, it should be listed from 1 to 10. It also says that numbers can be repeated. I tried either repeating numbers or listing a candidate with an "11" (as the warning says) and the error keeps coming. Am I doing something wrong? or the questionnaire has an error? Thank you very much for the time. Rocío Mantis (talk) 22:08, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

1. Hi Rocío Mantis, there was one glitch that has been fixed. Please try to vote again. If you still find this problem on your temporarily saved vote, then we will reset it. New voters shouldn't encounter this problem. --Qgil-WMF (talk) 22:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

1. Hello, I have tried to vote, but I receive the same problem as the user above "Your vote is not valid. Boxes must contain a number between 1 and 11 or be left empty.". All my votes are between 1 and 10, some are empty and some give the same rank, but they all respect the rules written in the vote guide, and it was the same vote that I did in the test, so I don't understand from where this error comes. Please let me know how to fix this so that I can vote. Thank you in advance for that. Anass Sedrati (talk) 06:51, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

1. Hi Anass Sedrati, even if the glitch was fixed yesterday, it seems that open votes (not submitted) before where still carrying it. In order to fix this problem, I have restarted the votes that had been started before the glitch was fixed and were still open. I hope this fixes this problem for good for all users. My apologies.--Qgil-WMF (talk) 10:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
   1. Hi Qgil-WMF, thank you very much for your answer. I would like to confirm to you that I have indeed tried again to vote this morning, and this time it worked perfectly, so now my duty is done. Thank you very much for the support :) Anass Sedrati (talk) 07:51, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

None of the above (NOTA) votes

What happens if majority of voters decide not to elect anyone and leave the boxes empty? Majority of blank votes will denote that voters do not have confidence on any candidates to become a WMF board member, thus rejecting them. In that case, will there be cancellation of candidatures and/or re-election or in a most unlikely case, will the blank votes be completely ignored or will there be any other scenario? Although, there is no "None of the above" (NOTA) box option this year, I think, it would be great to put it next time, so that, if a voter doesn't want to chose anyone but still want to register a vote in a proper way, it can be done. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 06:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

The proper way to register a vote and not chose anyone is to leave all the boxex empty and hit the button submit vote. Ad Huikeshoven (talk) 15:47, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ad Huikeshoven: Yes, that I have understood that this is the current procedure. I am interested to learn about what would happen when such blank votes become majority. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 19:14, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@Bodhisattwa: Blank votes will be reported along with all the other results. The board makes the ultimate decision of what to do with the results of the poll, and would take into account situations like blank votes beating the top two candidates. ★NealMcB★ (talk) 16:23, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

change in voting delegate

@Elitre (WMF): Wikimedians in Residence Exchange Network requests a change in voting delegate.

1. Remove Richard Knipel user:Pharos.
2. Designate user:Sannita, who is d:Q26773031 Luca Martinelli

user:Emjackson42 is one of the coordinators for being a voting delegate and could verify the discussion.

I am forwarding Luca's email to Elitre by email. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:12, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Done, Luca has his link now. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:31, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, of course I did not want to be a voting delegate after I had decided to run myself.--Pharos (talk) 15:34, 22 May 2019 (UTC)