Talk:2015 Strategy

Consultation

I have difficulties understanding how to navigate and use Talk:2015 Strategy/Community consultation and subpages (and history thereof). It would be useful to have instructions on the subject page. --Nemo 22:30, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Nemo. The transcluded pages are gradually disappearing, as the content on them is archived. (They were created to help keep the page a usable size for everyone, while still letting people easily read through the many sections of current comments from multiple days.) The archives should function as normal. They don't have the standard "archive" template on them because there was some concern that contributors should not feel that they were no longer welcome to discuss ideas, so it was modified just to make plain that they're no longer necessarily being followed by staff. I've been wondering if we should create a standard archive index, but there are so, so many sections and they are mostly just IP addresses and people's names, so I'm not sure that'll be especially useful. I'm happy to try to put together some instructions, if you think it would be helpful given that general structure. Your thoughts on that would be welcome. Instructions will almost certainly be needed when phase two begins, when we start reporting back. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 23:50, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

@Mdennis (WMF): Please see User_talk:LilaTretikov (WMF)#2015 Strategy/Community consultation. Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 19:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello, User:Rogol Domedonfors. While I realize that this has taken quite a bit more time than anticipated, I know that this actually actively being worked on, as I was contacted just a few days ago about it by Kim Gilbey, the strategy coordinator for this project. Although her contract is over with the Wikimedia Foundation, she is still committed to getting the report out and, I believe, hopes to do so in the very near future. She had some questions about processes, to which I have responded. I'm not sure when it will be out, but I think it won't be long, and I will be sure to update when it is. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 21:05, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for that. The issue that I was particularly concerned about is, whether and when this report will be issued to the community. As I understand it the answers are "hopefully yes" and "not long". While that is better than anything we have been given so far, it is still not quite what I would have hoped, which would have been "yes of course" and "on day X" where X is, say, some date in August 2015.

In passing, I wonder how much consideration has been given to the message this conveys to the community about the degree of importance the WMF actually attaches to reporting back to the community after an exercise of this kind. With 270-odd staff on the WMF payroll, the completion feedback is apparently dependent on the good will of an unpaid former consultant. I forbear to pursue that line further, but will leave it to your imagination what I might have compared it to in the hierarchy of WMF activities. Does it entirely match such statements as Your vision matters, or an outcome truly representative of our shared goals, I wonder?

However, as I said at Lila's talk page, I leave the internal aspects up to her. Looking forward, and considering the external aspects, that is, the relationship between the volunteer community and the paid staff, and planning for success o the delivery of the report, what can you tell us about phase two which you announced here in March? Rogol Domedonfors (talk) 21:27, 16 August 2015 (UTC)