Research talk:Teahouse/Hosting/Lounge use
Add topicPlease share your thoughts and feelings about the host lounge pages. Think about the following:
- What page(s), if any, do you use frequently?
- Why do you use them, and why don't you use others?
- What part of this page is valuable to you and can you see it being used in the future?
To make it easier to read, use this syntax:
- Your name here
- Do you use this page?
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Remember the goal of this and let's try to create content that will be used and valuable to hosts now and in the future. Please contribute your thoughts in the sections below, the more the merrier:
Existing pages
[edit]- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I already have a good handle on what I am doing
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Nothing really. Good for new hosts.
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Not anymore.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Useful before / right after signing on, to learn what hosting is about. Thereafter, not so much.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
A link for potential hosts to sign up would be good on this page, I think.
- Keilana
- Do you use this page?
Not anymore
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I did to check out what this hosting gig was all about, then got a handle on it.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
I'm with Dalahast, a link to sign up would be awesome.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
- Not anymore
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- It is mostly informational for new hosts.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
Not recently, though according to my browser history, I have been there before.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I believe I used it during the pilot phase, to make sure I was doing things right, but even then only once.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
I would prefer "expectations" to "responsibilities". Responsibility implies an obligation, and that the duty should be performed to a satifactory level. It doesn't quite fit with a volunteer group taken from a set of volunteers. Also, I would suggest it was merged with a few other pages to make a "how to be a host" guide.
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
At one time.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Eidetic memory
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Necessary for new hosts, but should probably be combined with Tips.
- NtheP
- Do you use this page?
Have done in the past, not recently though
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Second nature now
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Good for new hosts
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
Read it once. "Invite at least 20 new good-faith editors..." was a killer; I probably manage a dozen or more but at least 20...
- If so, why? If not, why not?
It's a one-time intro', not a page for ongoing reference.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
I suggest a merge to top of Tips
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- I used to.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Like the others said, its mostly an introduction
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- It could be merged with one of the other pages
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
Used to
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Inviting and tracking was somewhat tedious
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Bots, bots, and more bots. You don't need a human to drop an invite template on a users page. Everything from leaving invites to tracking the results of invites can be done and kept track of by bots. If you are concerned about not having the signature personalized on the invitation, get a list of hosts whose name the bot can sign. You can even automate emails if you want to do that.
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Not regularly. Have done so in the past.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Good place to get started inviting people. The sample email contains some useful material to consider when writing one's own email (which really is a good idea, since even new editors are often aware that we like to slap templates on talk pages).
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Ideally, we could make some more useful templates (currently, we only seem to use the welcoming ones) and put them up on this page. Different designs, more choices of wording, etc. would further detract from the idea that all we do is slap templates on pages. Moreover, I would like to point out that I strongly disagree with the above recommendation of "bots, bots, and more bots". Bots would be, IMHO, counterproductive for the Teahouse, as they make things less personal, not more. Bots should, for the purposes of the Teahouse, be restricted to tasks that help keep it operating smoothly (e.g. archiving the questions, preparing lists of new users that may need an invite), and should ideally never be seen by the Teahouse's "customers". The idea of having a bot sign other editors' names also seems rather dishonest, in a way.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
- Yes, bookmarked
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- It's the backbone for inviting new editors, which has been my focus
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- It's pretty flat from a UX perspective, so I'd recommend improving its look and feel. Also, add a running list of potential invitees, a log of those who've been invited, etc.
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
During the pilot
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I needed a link to the google spreadsheet. It was fairly tedious, and having the flow diagram was helpful.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
I'm with Jayron. This should be done by a bot, though the community has been against automatic welcoming in the past.
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
I refer to Step 1 a lot.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Always tells me where to go after I've gone through the DBR.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Step 2 should not include the templates as they belong with the rest of the templates.
Step 3 is needed but I always use my own emails. I suppose the example was useful in my first week.
I think the bot should invite the editors it is currently inviting, but that hosts should look in the other places!
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
Used to, I've only ever really invited from new user contributions
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Most of the other methods I found too time consuming to work with. Going from contribs I've always worked slightly different and didn't bother with the 10 edit guideline. I've invited on just one or two if they look to me like genuine attempts to improve content. I don't bother with email much either
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Bots probably are the way to go
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- Occasionally
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- This mostly explains how to find new users and get started inviting, most of my invites are done automatically through AfC
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- It's already a great page for new hosts, I don't think it needs improvement
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
Frequently; bookmarked
- If so, why? If not, why not?
For me, it's a handy summary.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Either put some of the alternate invite templates on the page or link to the page with the alternate invite templates.
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
- Not really
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Redundant to Responsibilities page in some ways. Maybe combine the two into a single page.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Not anymore.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Useful when starting out. Those of us who are accustomed to dealing with new editors should find most of this to be second-nature. If not, it's a good reminder to them of how they should act, I suppose.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
More tips could be written based on questions we've answered in the past, to include more detailed help about answering specific types of questions, rather than just a general list of best practices.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
- Not anymore
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- It's basic information for new hosts
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
Never even opened it until today
- If so, why? If not, why not?
This may sound arrogant, but interacting with users is what I do. I do it well, and I wouldn't have been convinced that the tips would actually be an improvement on my style.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Having looked at it, I'm not happy with a couple of the suggestions. Expecting editors to email the new users who leave is above and beyond the call of duty in my opinion. It's exactly why I dropped out of WikiGuides, it's demoralising for the editor who's putting that much effort in on lost causes (even if you're doubling the retention rate, you're sending out hundreds emails which go unanswered)
The teahouse talkback should definitely be done by a bot. I'm not a fan of talkback messages, I know the benefits for new users, but when they're asking multiple questions, or getting multiple answers, I don't think it's needed.
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
Not anymore.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Eidetic memory.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Merge with Responsibilities.
I think that if the Tips are followed by everyone to a T(pun intended), guests will be getting talkback after talkback and email after email and it may make them think we're some kind of WikiLove cult that does not respect their right to vanish.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
It's what I try and do anyway. Because I was in fairly early on we used to discuss this elsewhere
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Useful for new hosts so leave
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- I did when I first joined, I don't usually now
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- This is mostly an introductory page (plus it's basically my protocol everywhere on Wikipedia)
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- A little expansion might help
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
I read it early on but hadn't been back until just now.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
It's an intro', not something that I need to refer to often.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
I agree with others about merging with Responsibilities. Emphasize that we're dealing with newcomers and need to avoid jargon and links. Just answer the question in plain English (but maybe with a link to get more detailed information).
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
- Yes, sometimes
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Good procedures
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Maybe combine with responsibilities and tips page, seems a little redundant
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Nope.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Actually did not know it existed. Some of these appear to be things that the kind of people we're looking to have help out should already be familiar with (categories, links, sandbox, watchlist), though.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Keep the more specialized how-tos, like the COI one, and add more for other policies, e.g. copyright.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
- Yes, sometimes
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Occasionally, comes in handy
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
Never opened until today
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Well, I do like the idea for some people, but it's not for me. I'm not keen on canned responses, I'll come up with a metaphor or an explanation on the spot, it's half the fun and important to tailor the comment to the user's question. For example, if a user comes in shouting that their article has been deleted, when it's actually only been tagged, they will need a much more detailed explanation about what deletion on wikipedia means, than someone who had just !voted at an AfD.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Have the option for a "1 page" mode, transcluding all the subpages.
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
Not even once.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Per Worm.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Only keep the stuff that hosts explicitly say they use. It generally just adds to the clutter of the lounge.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Don't think I was ever aware it was there
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Like Worm I like to come up with my own explanation, analogies etc
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- I think this page could be the greatest thing since sliced bread if we get some hosts in here to work on it. Right now it's just tucked away in the back of the host guides
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Like I said, get some hosts to come in and expand it. I would be more than happy to help.
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
No.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
A couple of reasons.
- Per WormTT and others, I want my answers to be specific to the particular new user and what s/he asked, not a boiler plate answer.
- As both the newest (in time on Wikipedia and number of edits) and oldest (in chronological age) host, the Teahouse is a way for me to learn the intricacies of Wikipedia policy and procedures. I often see a newcomer ask a question that I didn't know enough to even ask. Researching the correct answer and putting the answer in plain English is educational for me.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
It may be useful for some of the more common questions about articles being declined for lack of notability.
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
- Yes!
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- When I respond to questions or invite someone, it has the templates I need
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Nope, good stuff!
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Once in a while.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I installed the user script that inserts the invite, AFC invite, and talkback templates with one click, so it's less useful now. I did also grab the two welcome templates that plug the Teahouse for my Twinkle installation. Handy, one way or another.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
As above (under invite guide), a large variety of templates, perhaps in different styles, would be good for spicing things up a bit. This also detracts from the image that many new users have of experienced Wikipedians simply slapping templates onto their talk pages, which might as well be done by a bot (and this is the case on some Wikipedias, if memory serves). I'd be more than willing to help out with the templates, should we go ahead with that.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
- Rarely
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- The ones that I use, I've got somewhere else. I come back here to see if there's anything new that interests me.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
Regularly, yes.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Since I'm putting a teahouse template down, I need to get the code from somewhere. It's not memorable wikicode.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
None (though I'd happily not use it, per bot suggestion above)
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
Once.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Added the templates to my scripts, never needed the page again.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
The general welcome templates with policy links should be Oversighted because they are clearly gross libel :D. This page should implement Ryan Vesey's "welcome-only" idea and provide a space for hosts to share these messages.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
Not much
- If so, why? If not, why not?
use the scripts for invites and "your question has been answered". Don't think I've ever bothered with a barnstar
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
The templates need to go somewhere
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- Yes
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- This has all the great Teahouse templates on it!
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- I helped revamp it when it became just a pile of links and pictures and occasionally preform general maintenance on it. Not to toot my own horn, but I really believe it's pretty much done unless there is a new template made (I'm open to suggestion here if someone else comes up with something)
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
Yes. Bookmarked.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Handy place to get the codes.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
A bit more variety. I saw variations of the invite template on new user's talk pages that aren't included on this page. I personally use a whisperback for subsequent discussion added to a question where the talkback template is already on a new user's talk page to reduce clutter.
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
- No.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- I'm a script luddite. Its a personality quirk. It's me, not you...
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- No idea. Maybe combine with templates?
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
All the time.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
The invite and talkback script greatly simplifies inviting editors. As mentioned above, I threw the two welcome templates that plug the Teahouse into my Twinkle installation, for welcoming editors and inviting them at the same time.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
None yet, but we could expand / update this once we have more templates and other stuff that would be handy to use from a script.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- The ones that I use, I've got somewhere else.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
Didn't even know it was there.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I've got lots of scripts already, and they often break each other.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
None
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
Once.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Used them as a guide then rewrote them for my own use (except the in-sig talkback links, now that is a quality script!).
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Make the page part of the "Welcome to the Teahouse!" template used to welcome new hosts.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
Once to get the links to the scripts
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- I used it once to get the code to add the Teahouse scripts
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- It's a script gallery. Once you have the scripts, there isn't much need for a return visit unless you need documentation or something
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- None really, unless there are more scripts to be added
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
Once. Just added it to my watchlist in case there are changes/updates.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Ditto above; not a page I plan to visit often.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
None.
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Superfluous.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Nah.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Redundant for most users, and you should probably already be familiar with the five pillars if you're helping out at the Teahouse.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
I question the necessity of having this as a separate page. Link the main one somewhere and leave it at that, no?
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- It's already tatooed in my brain
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
It's identical redundant to the the five pillars essay, something I'd expect every host to know really well anyway.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Totally and utterly useless. Get rid.
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
No.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Kind of funny :/.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Scrap it.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Copy of information available elsewhere
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Redundant, delete
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- I didn't know it existed, really. This page does, however, seem really useful for cases when you need to explain the Five Pillars to noobs
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Looking over it, I don't really see anything that could be updated
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
The Five Pillars are so basic and essential to Wikipedia that I prefer to refer even newcomers to the original page. If they have questions about them, that's a separate issue.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Delete it is my suggestion.
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Never needed to.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Nope.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Never had a need for it, and didn't know it existed.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Looking at it now, the layout could be greatly simplified / streamlined from the current, overly-large table running down the page.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Didn't look at it before, but now that I've seen it, I may refer to it again.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Another redundant page for hosts. If there's a topic, there's probably a wikiproject on it, using the search bar will happen to find it.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Get rid of it.
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
No.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. Bookmarked.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Scrap it.
- Benzband
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I didn't know it existed
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Delete?
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Wasn't aware of it
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Even if I knew about it, I look elsewhere for projects - to make sure they are active. I'd hate to direct a new editor to a dormant or dead project.
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- I wasn't aware of it. It would be useful in cases when you want yo direct an editor to a WikiProject, though
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Make sure it's up to date and doesn't have any dormant projects listed
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- In my opinion, either the search bar or WP:PROJDIR are better sources of information on Wikiprojects.
- Many (most?) new editors are interested in a narrow niche. User:Tlqk56 is one of many Teahouse success stories; her niche is WikiProject Children's literature. Know how many layers or levels down from the major topics in this page's list you have navigate through to get to Children's Literature?
- I like to make my answers personal and specific.[1]
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
I suggest deleting it.
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
- No.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Wikipedia has enough glossaries, guides, etc. Maybe this should just be a link to one of those.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Nah.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Already pretty familiar with this stuff.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Could be useful for newer hosts if it were more comprehensive—stuff like !vote and the shorthand that many editors use in edit summaries ("rv", etc) should probably be there.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Already familiar with the content.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
It's not for hosts, it's for guests. Hosts should already know these, or know how to find out
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Get rid of it.
- Hajatvrc
Per Worm.
- Nthep
Per Worm.
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Didn't know it existed
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Improve some definitions and move it out of the host lounge. It's a page for guests, so why is it in the host lounge?
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I prefer to explain in plain English and lead a newcomer to the appropriate page(s) for more details. Newcomers need to learn to use search and little things like inserting WP: if they want Wikipedia policy and guidelines rather than a mainspace article.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Delete it?
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
Once or twice.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
The navigation template is more accessible.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
It will be a lot better once other pages are merged/removed.
The Goals and scope and the Announcements are nice.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
Talk page - yes. Project page - only rarely
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Useful discussion page
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- Yes
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- It's the directory and main hub of activity at the TH
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- None really
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
Yes
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Bookmarked it shortly after finding the Teahouse and use it often to navigate to other pages.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Just keep it current as the hub of the host wheel.
- Benzband
- Do you use this page?
Kind of…
- If so, why? If not, why not?
It's on my watchlist.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
None as of yet.
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
Yes.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
It is one of the only things at the Teahouse that does not contain superfluous information.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Just encourage people to watch it. It is OK that it is transcluded onto the main page.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
Only if it shows on my watchlist
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Doesn't really register with me otherwise
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
None
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- Yes
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- When it's updated, it's a great TH news source
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Update it more
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
Yes. On watchlist.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Have to keep up with what's new and different.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Benzband
- Do you use this page?
A lot.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Via the cool css hack that uses it.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Hajatvrc
- Do you use this page?
Multiple times a day.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
It is just excellent.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Move to the top of most pages (where it is at the Q&A) as opposed to the bottom.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
installed in my common.css page, so yes and no
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Useful to have something handy when I need it
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- Oh, yeah
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- It's the easiest way to get around the TH next to "WP:" shortcuts
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Move it to the top of pages and put it everywhere
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
Not a page but I use it all the time.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Fastest way to where I want to go.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Nope. Looks good.
- Jayron32
- Do you use this page?
- No.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- Just never did.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Dalahäst
- Do you use this page?
Nope.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
I looked at it once to see how many inactive hosts we have. Doesn't really serve any other purpose.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
None for now.
- Rosiestep
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Doesn't interest me.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Lord Roem
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why or why not?
No compelling reason.
- Suggestions?
Try to spice it up the same way as the main page. Add some new element. I'm thinking of some myself, and I'll get back to you. 
- Worm That Turned
- Do you use this page?
Nope
- If so, why? If not, why not?
Don't see it as that helpful
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Have something on there as to why the host stopped. Depending on the reason, they could be asked to restart :) Without something like that, it's pointless (everything's in the history), get rid of it.
- Hajatvrc
Per Worm.
- Benzband
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
So far i haven't needed it
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
Per Worm.
- Nthep
- Do you use this page?
No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
WP:NOTMEMORIAL :-)
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- Nathan2055
- Do you use this page?
- No
- If so, why? If not, why not?
- I've never needed to, I've never gone not active enough to warrant using it
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
- None really
- DocTree
- Do you use this page?
No. Looked at it once to see who retired.
- If so, why? If not, why not?
No need.
- Suggestions on how to improve this page?
None
Host lounge suggestions
[edit]What type of pages, things, content, etc, would you like to see in the host lounge?
- Your idea here
- It's not particularly useful as it is, except as a quick-start guide for new hosts. Could be expanded to include content more useful to all hosts, e.g. examples of well-written answers and the like. Dalahäst (talk) 03:46, 8 August 2012 (UTC) N.B. I didn't realize I hadn't signed this earlier, so the timestamp there is actually wrong. Better late than never, hm?
- Things should be condensed a bit. If it can be handled with a link to another Wikipedia page, do that. Some redundant or pages with similar purposes could be combined. --Jayron32 (talk) 23:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- "One page" transclusion option like AfD. More community-based spaces such as sharing custom welcome messages; posting one's favorite answers (or parts of answers) by other hosts giving praise there in supplement to (or as opposed to) giving barnstars that just encourage hat collecting. Community is the only way to universally ensure that everyone is on the same page. And please get rid of the Five Pillars, WikiProjects, Glossary, and most of the How-to Guides! Hajatvrc (talk) 10:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- I like the idea of sharing custom welcome messages and favourite questions / answers, the first of which somewhat builds on the idea I had that we should try to expand our library of available welcome / invite messages, so as to appear more personal and individualized. One does not need to know how to make a fancy box to write a good welcome message—if you want to make a pretty box, go for it. If not, don't. The more varied styles of welcome we have, the better the Teahouse can achieve its goal of being more personal and promoting of WikiLove than what help and communication has traditionally been offered here. Dalahäst (talk) 11:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)