Research talk:Develop a working definition for moderation activity and moderators

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Hi Diego (WMF), thanks for this new research that brings a few earlier initiatives together. I have a few questions and remarks:

• According to the logged action section, you don't seem to include classical admin actions like imports and content model changes which are easily countable in local logs and tools like xtools. Similarly, edits in particular namespaces that can only be edited by admins (like MediaWiki namespace everywhere, CNBanners on Metawiki, etc.) don't seem to be included either, although they should be countable.
• I am very much confused by the term “messagebox” which doesn't seem to be very common in English Wikipedia either. Do you mean cleanup templates? User warnings? Can you please add a definition or glossary?
  • In any case, the tables imply a comparability that does not exist. Moderation action on German Wikipedia (my first home wiki) are fully different from English Wikipedia: Instead of spreading tons and tons of citation needed templates (there is community consensus that they should not be used), the community has decided to use other means of moderation, first and foremost flagged revisions. I'm not sure whether you have taken these into concern when you were talking about the “review” log (see local statistics). The use of cleanup templates is also very much limited by policy.
  • For user warnings, German Wikipedia has a different usage, too. All talk pages of (dynamic) IP addresses are deleted withing 24 hours, making it the most used delete reason (>770k log entries per this statistic). Dewiki doesn't want to confuse people who later use these IP addresses as we can see on English Wikipedia even after more than a decade, e.g. see this comment. Both these processes should be taken into concern when comparing moderation actions. I assume that other Wikipedias have different processes, too.

Best, —DerHexer (Talk) 20:07, 27 February 2025 (UTC)