Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Standard Zazaki
Standard Zazaki Wikipedia
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This proposal has been rejected. This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page. The closing committee member provided the following comment: the language code is a macro language; it consists of multiple languages |
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- Number of speakers: Estimated somewhere between 2 - 4 million.
- Locations spoken: Mostly in eastern Turkey, Germany, and Sweden
- Related languages:en:Iranian languages
- related pages: diq.wikipedia
- Paul, Ludwig. (1998) "The Position of Zazaki Among West Iranian languages" University of Hamburg,[6].
- Lynn Todd, Terry. (1985) "A Grammar of Dimili" University of Michigan,[7].
- Gippert, Jost. (1996) "Historical Development of Zazaki" Frankfurt University,[8].
- Gajewski, Jon. (2003) "Evidentiality in Zazaki" Massachusetts Institute of Technology,[9].
- Gajewski, Jon. (2004) "Zazaki Notes" Massachusetts Institute of Technology,[10].
- Larson, Richard. and Yamakido, Hiroko. (2006) "Zazaki as Double Case-Marking" Stony Brook University and University of Arizona,[11].
Arguments in favour
- Support : Developed by the Zazaki Institute[1] throughout years of research, taking into account all Zazaki dialects. This standardized Zazaki language is indispensable as the language of science and is very important for understanding among all Zazas.
--Mirzali 07:41, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support : Developed by the Zazaki Institute. --Asmên 23:14, 19 September 2008 (CET)
- Support : The openning of this Wikipedia for Standard Zazaki is very important for scientific reasons and for the development of this language. --Asya 16:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support : The openning of this Wikipedia for Standard Zazaki is very important for scientific reasons and for the development of this language. --Atuek 18:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Support : I support the Wikipedia for standard Zazaki. It is necessary for Zaza people to undarstand each other well when they speak in their native language.--Belekvor 23:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Arguments against
General discussion
- What is meant by "Standard" Zazaki and how does this compare to the language as it is usually practised ??? Thanks. GerardM 16:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
- Standard seems to mean a standardized written form of Zazaki as developed by the Zazaki Institute based on the common ground of all dialects. The Zazaki Institute is seated in Germany. So I'd like to ask how much recognition does this institution have in the areas, where Zazaki is actually spoken? Is the Zazaki Institute a fancy diaspora ivory tower with not much impact on the actual speakers or is it really recognized and is the developed standard well-known in Zazakia? --::Slomox:: >< 16:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed, Standard Zazaki is a standardized written form of Zazaki as developed by the Zazaki Institute based on the common ground of all dialects. The Zazaki Institute is seated in Germany.
- The standard form is already written in diq .wikipedia and will be applied in the Zazaish periodical Miraz. The alphabet which Zazaki Institute uses is established since 1992 and acknowledged by many other periodicals, too.
- Until the early 90ies were all minority languages in Turkey officially banned, including the Zazaish language. Since the Zazas yet also don’t have their own television, the language heritage was orally transmitted. Albeit later by folk songs and some magazines the native language was more widespread, but it is not enough. Therefore the Internet offers a good opportunity to fill this gap. --Mirzali 11:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)