Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Central Dusun

Kadazandusun Wikipedia

submitted	verification	final decision

	This proposal has been approved. The Board of Trustees and language committee have deemed that there is sufficient grounds and community to create the new language project. A committee member provided the following comment: phab:T365220. --Sotiale (talk) 10:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:

What	Value	Example / Explanation

Proposal
Language code	dtp (SIL, Glottolog)	A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name	Central Dusun	Language name in English
Language name	Kadazandusun	Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item	Q5317225 - item has currently the following values: English label: Kadazandusun native label (P1705): boros Kadazandusun instance of (P31)/subclass of (P279): natural language, modern language / Dusunic Wikimedia language code (P424): dtp writing system (P282): Latin script number of speakers, writers, or signers (P1098): 180,000	Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality	LTR	Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links	Bating, Henry (8 November 2018). "Bahasa Kadazandusun dan Pembakuan" [The Kadazandusun Language and Standardization]. Kursus Pemantapan Profesionalisme Bahasa Kadazandusun (in Malay) (IPG Keningau).	Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Site URL	dtp.wikipedia.org	langcode.wikiproject.org

Settings
Project name	Wikipedia	"Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace	Wikipedia	usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace	Pibarasan Wikipedia	"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads	no	Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons. If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin"). Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo	File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-dtp.svg	This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone	Asia/Kuching	"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces		For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings		Anything else that should be set
A Phabricator task has been submitted.

Proposal

The Kadazandusun language is a standardized language developed from the amalgamation of the Dusunic languages, primarily from the Dusun language (and its dialects) and the Kadazan language (and its dialects) to unite speakers of the Kadazandusun community. The standardized language is recognized in Malaysia and has been taught in schools and universities with language materials being actively produced.

Discussion

Arguments in favour

(Ruputan do mongundi) Kanou no misokodung popoingkakat do babasaon id tompok tunturu.

Support Support Living language. It has been spoke in Sabah state.Francis Labi 14:41, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Support : Native speakers of Dusun have the competency and willingness to contribute to this project in the long-term. Hence the Dusun language deserves to be given the opportunity and privilege to have its own language edition of Wikipedia. --Jose77 21:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Support : Yoho nga sumukung nogi diti purujik. Agree with Jose77. --Franelya Lizendra 22:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Support : This language is still used in Sabah and I think there's a newspaper in this language. --Kurniasan 10:41, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Support Used of most people in Sabah, Malaysia.--Aplikasi 10:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Support It seems that the Dusun language has enough people willing to work on it, so I support them! Capsot 08:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Support : I believe that the creation of Wikipedia Dusun would do wonders to preserve and bring development to the language itself. Being a minority language, Dusun is deprived of a free medium in which its speakers can express their thoughts, philosophy and culture through their own mother tongue freely. By having a Wikipedia Dusun, this would help the Dusun people, especially the younger generations to realize that their own language is a unique language and that it has the potential to flourish into a more literary language just like any other great lingua franca the world has seen. With the right exposure and publicity, I'm sure that a Wikipedia Dusun will attract many contributors eager to help and support this project.--Scriptor 19:57, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Extremely Supporting Yes. YES! --SyahirSQRT2 (talk) 12:10, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support Support : Sokong. Dituturkan di Sabah, Malaysia Datu Talk 16:02, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Will have more than enough users for thr project to function. --Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 19:17, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support I myself am a Dusun native. Sadly, I can only do basic conversations and commands as I was raised with English as my L1. Seeing each Dusun word replaced by a Malay word day by day makes me sad. In order to protect our culture, we should take steps in preserving it and a Wikipodia Dusun would help in making one of the giant leaps in Boros Dusun history. Nyansama02 (talk) 02:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support That is a highly spoken local language in Sabah, which is worth to have its language version in Wikimedia Foundation projects, especially Wikipedia and Wiktionary. Chongkian (talk) 06:41, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Tmv (talk) 05:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mulong tu' ogumu' nogi' asaga' do kopoturidangan diti Wikipidia don Dusun nga' au po kikoimpohon diti boros tu' mogisusuai o rontob (standard).
Support Support : Osokodung oku diti projek tu kaanu manahak liwang montok susukuon tulun ginumuan loolobi kopio kumaa i orohian minsingilo Boros Kadazandusun. Suai ko ii, kaanu nogi projek diti popotindohoi diti boros tokou mooi au daa tumalup.
Strong support Osokodung tomod oku do koimaganan diti Wikipedia Kadazandusun. Jilorisa (talk) 11:27 AM, 15 September 2023
Strong support Osokodung tomod oku do pohoroon o Wikipedia Kadazandusun diti montok toinsanan. Jjurieee (talk) 12:00 PM, 27 September 2023

Strong support This is a language in need of saving, usage, and a dignified position in modern society. Its vitality necessitates for a creation of an official Kadazandusun Wikipedia. As for strong opposition on the basis of the lack of a singular 'Dusun' language, Bunduliwan is the recognized standard of which the consensus is a standard lect akin to the Hebrew used during the Haskalah. Oponsol kopio poturidongon iso Wikipedia don Boros Tokou baino. Kada' poloidon kaagu. TomposioBoos (talk) 5:00, 3 Oct 2023 (UTC)

Strong support I strongly support that there is Wikipedia Kadazandusun in the Wikimedia projects. Michelina Michael (talk)

Strong support Osokodung tomod oku montok koimaganan diti Wikipedia Kadazandusun. Iti no ralan dati popoingkawas om popoburu boros Tina tokou!!CorrelMoris38 (talk)

Arguments against

(Ruputan do awu mongundi)

Strong oppose There is no single "Dusun" language, the ISO code [dtp] define it as "Kadazan Dusun": https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/dtp. My best recommendation is to rename the project if there are any contributors who want to develop these project, or simply cancel the proposal since there is no factual single entity of "Dusun language". (Dirk Gret (talk) 14:45, 20 September 2022 (UTC))[reply]

Other discussion

(Pogibabarasan suai)

Change words 'Dusun Bundu-Liwan' with 'Central Dusun, Dusun) [1] --Franelya Lizendra 22:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. 'Dusun Bundu-Liwan' is Dusun + Bahasa Melayu. Please use the terms 'Dusun' to distinguish between 'Malay Dusun' and 'Pure Dusun'. FRANCIS5091 02:06, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please use untuntoilaan instead of the English-Malay loan "ensiklopedia" for the official label in the logo. It should say "Untuntoilaan Tagabas" to mean "The Free Encyclopedia". Untuntoilaan (lit. lump of knowledge) communicates the core idea very directly instead of an English loan. AnderGapoh 23:21, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative proposal for the Central Dusun Wikipedia

AnderGapoh (talk) 02:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, there ought to be some opposition to using "Wikipedia" as opposed to "Wikipidia" which is how it's normally pronounced. This romanization is also not unseen, as many other Wikipedias substitute the e vowel to an i. AnderGapoh (talk) 02:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kokomoi do waya kapamansayan hogot wagu

Hiti potilombuson di pitimbungakan kokomoi kapaganan aiso hogot di kotunud saralom isoiso gana'. Kapaganan nopo do momonsoi hogot wagu panakadalin ngai hogot poinsandad id boros Inggilis pointudan id aiso do sukuon koiso (primary references) id boros Kadazandusun. Nga' sogu ku nopo montok ii monunurat i kiharo nodi do toilalaan om nawayaan id isoiso gana' dii, ongoi no koyu poworuno hogot wagu di kotunud maya kasarahan dikoyu, om nung haro nopondo ponguhatan lobi po haro o pisiwalan karait tongo hogot kowoworun dii posuango id liwang pogibabarasan di bolikan nokomoi. AnderGapoh (talk) 16:03, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Osonong kopio sogu nu👍🏻 Soira koimagon kopio iti Wikipedia BKD, unsubon tomod daa pitimbungakan do komuniti tokou montok minginsonong kualiti diti artikel BKD om papatantu nogi dasar & panduan montok oinsanan user/editor wiki bkd..milo kanto poindalanon hilo liwang pibarasan/liwang kedai kopi Rombituon (talk) 10:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]