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Ahirani Wikipedia

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This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

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  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
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  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code ahr (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Ahirani Language name in English
Language name Ahirani Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q15549890 - item has currently the following values: Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links [1] Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Settings
Project name "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace Wikipedia in Ahirani usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Discussion Wikipedia in Ahirani "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Wikipedia-logo-hi.png This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone IST (GMT+5.30) "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
Once settings are finalized, a committee member will submit a Phabricator task requesting creation of the wiki. (This will include everything automatically, except the additional namespaces/settings.) After the task is created, it should be linked to in a comment under "final decision" above.

Proposal

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Ahirani language is spoken by million people in central Maharashtra region of India. Ahirani is the most popular and frequently spoken language in "Khandesh". Although having over million speakers, Ahirani can be considered as one of the endangered language due to vast majority of people speaking Ahirani belongs to financially poor regions. But on the other side, computers are reaching to every nook and corner of villages and hence it is very important that to include Ahirani language in Wikipedia so as people from villages will be able to read/write articles and also it will help language to not to get diminished.

Almost 95 % of the total population speaks this language in Khandesh. The Main Areas are Dhule, Jalgaon, Nandurbar, Part of Nasik & Aurangabad in maharasthra state of India. All of the Tehsils like Amalner,Sakri, Dondaich, Shirpur, Taloda, Shahada, Dhadgaon, Akkalkuwa, Parola, Erondol, Satana, Malegaon, Baglan people do speak this language. Also, in Gujrat, Surat, vyara, etc., in M.P. Amba- Varla and around, AHIRANI is spoken. Akhil Bhratiya Khandesh Academy registered NGO is working on developing its importance. The name Ahirani itself throws light on it. Khandesh is an area surrounded by Satpuda, Ajanta and Chandwad ranges, and Waghur river. Ahirani is today spoken in the Jalgaon, Nandurbar, Dhule and Nashik (Baglan, Malegaon and Kalwan tehsils) districts of Maharashtra, India. It is further divided into dialects such as Chalisgaon, Malegaon and Dhule group. Borrowing and bending the words from Hindi, Marathi and Gujarati, Ahirani has created its own words not found in any of these languages.

Ahirani is basically in colloquial form and uses the Devanagari script for its writing. Bahinabai Chaudhari is a well-known poet in Ahirani, and the study of her literature is studied and included in Marathi language. But the language in her poems is different from Ahirani. Some say the poet is not Ahirani, but Lewa. But Lewa and Ahirani are sub-dialects of Khandeshi. So Khandeshi is the term or concept that merges all disputes. It is a wide region-based concept.

* Location spoken: Central/North region of Maharashtra State in India.

Discussion

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Arguments in favour

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  • Support : Number of speakers of Ahirani language are Over 1 million of people and hence it deserves to be created on Wikipedia. Sukdeo_Sapkale
  • Support : Ahirani language uses the Devanagari script for its writing and hence no additional types of fonts are required. Devanagari script is already used in Marathi Wikipedia.
  • Support  : Linguistic study of Ahirani is available in Dr. R.S. Suryawanshi's Seven books on Ahirani Language.
  • Support : Although Ahirani language which is spoken in majority of non-metro cities of India, However as the Information Technology is reaching every nook and corner of Ahirani region, This regions are growing in speed and in 2-3 years, they will be superpower cities of India.
  • Support : Poems in ahirani language by "Bahinabaai" available on Indian books stores all over the world.
Ahirani Global Events
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Arguments against

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Other discussion

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  • Ahirani is consdered to be dialect of Marathi language.Untill they complete interface translations , for untransalated messages Marathi language interface can be used.
  • First level of Marathi language wikipedia help pages is good; and it can be imported untill they complete their help page translations to ahirani wikipedia.
  • The language is close enough to Marathi language for any future reliable Machine translation support.


I am burocrat at Marathi language wikipedia mainly working on help pages and awareness of various wikipedia values. Personally I am not an ahirani speaker but can understand and gude them various wikipedia values online and on field (if invited to do so).
I know few Ahirani language experts personally and will get them involved in the project to take care of "verify test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert."
I will continuously this project Mahitgar (He who knows ,wants to know and and loves to keep others informed) (talk) 04:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Same Ahirani Dialect is also spoken in DHARNI tehsil, in Amarvati District of Maharashtra in Melghat Tiger Reserve forest area. But it is not called as Ahirani they call it as Gavali Boli. lexicography,Syntax, phonology is same as of Ahirani. Near about 30 to 35 thousand people speak Gavai boli through 40 villages. Gavali people worship Asahdevi of Ashirgrah Fort. Their dialect, rituals, customs,are alike of Khandeshi people. Their surnames are like Khadke,Hekade, Shedke, Shanware, Savade, Gyan, Tote. They are cowherds and they call their group of cows as Heti They think Ashirghar fort, Gavilghar fort and Narnala fort as their ancienter s  forts. They consider themselves as Nandvanshi, children of Lord Krishna. They live with Korku, Gond, Kolam but they had preserved their Gavali dialect which is totally similar with Ahirani of Khandesh reign of Maharashtra.

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Proposed by

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Ahirani language Creation Proposal Team
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Alternative names

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Domain names

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http://books.google.co.in/books?id=LumxNyeFoTsC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=Ad4qAMLUC5sC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://sahitya.marathi.gov.in/ebooks/%E0%A4%96%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8%E0%A4%A6%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B6%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%B2%20%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%B7%E0%A4%95%20%E0%A4%9C%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%A8.pdf

People interested

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  1. माधव रमेश निकम
  2. Support Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 14:03, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]