Requests for comment/Sysop abuse on Vietnamese Wikipedia
The following request for comments is closed. Closing as resolved on request of original author, cf. Special:Permalink/27555092#Requests for comment/Sysop abuse on Vietnamese Wikipedia. EPIC (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Statement of the incident
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I open this RfC to report that I've been blocked indefinitely on viwiki by an administrator named Nguyentrongphu on April 25th, 2023 for the reason "Rối" (sockpuppetry). He confirms that my account is a sockpuppet of Trieu Thuan Son (who had already been community banned on viwiki) instead of requesting CU, then blocks me instantly.
The issue here is, on the same day (i.e. April 25th) in Administrators' noticeboard, there was a report (which was made by a(n) moderator/eliminator named NhacNy2412), mentioned/talked about my behavior in article Chiếu hết (cờ vua) (for more details about my behavior, see these revision 69861763 and revision 69861765 there. 
Note: On 1st revision, I was used the word "chi" (which is popularly used in Southern Vietnam) to describe the reason why I reverted the edit on the edit summary. And on 2nd revision, I didn't know that was Trieu Thuan Son's (or someone else) edit, thought it was a good-faith edit) and some redirect pages I created there: Tuyệt sát (cờ vua), Lưỡng chiếu (cờ vua), Sát cuộc (cờ vua), Sát cục (cờ vua) (see the user creation log). He deleted all of it, believe that I created to abet Trieu Thuan Son's open proxy (126.125.99.198; 60.97.63.140; 70.95.187.121; 103.247.55.83; 220.221.0.84; 220.221.0.84; 126.125.99.198; 126.59.249.49; 59.27.249.33) and let him (i.e. Trieu Thuan Son) vandalize easier (see this comment of the editor 70.95.187.121 who makes everyone think that I'm using VPN to dodge the block and vandalize some articles). But that's not what I'm actually thinking, the reason I created is to help readers/editors, make it easier to find these articles (like Chiếu hết (cờ vua), Chiếu đôi (cờ vua), etc.). Also he blocked me from editing my own talk page, didn't let me text/present there (see my contributions there) (he also deleted my appeal/complaint letter too, see this revision on viwiki), so that this is the only way I can do to avoid being misunderstood as TARGET6tidiem/Trieu Thuan Son. -- ☀DefenderTienMinh⛤☯☽ (talk) 16:53, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
Credits:
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Formalities
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Requirements
- Nominator requirements:
All passed (See my CentralAuth)
- have a Wikimedia account
- be registered for more than three months before making the request
- have at least 250 edits globally (on all Wikimedia wikis)
Research/Analysis
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Behavior
| Trieu Thuan Son's behavior | DefenderTienMinh07's behavior |
|---|---|
| Abusing multiple VPNs (42.118.157.37, 118.71.78.2, 116.106.192.216, 42.114.142.172) | Using actual IP address (see this revision 69924572 on wiki) |
| Personal attack (see Special:MobileDiff/23995148) | Protection (Special:MobileDiff/24517682) |
That's what I know, behavior can be accurately analyzed based on Interaction Timeline
Identity
Comments
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- Per Requests_for_comment/Policy#Initiating an RFC, you need to notify the Vietnamese Wikipedia community, but since you have been blocked indefinitely on vi.wikipedia, I did it for you, but @DefenderTienMinh07: you still need to notify Nguyentrongphu on Meta. Tryvix t 08:03, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- @DefenderTienMinh07: Have you ever complained to Phu? Đơn giản là tôi (talk) 17:28, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- How can I even complaining to him when he can block me from editing? He's quite strong there. I cannot do anything. ☀DefenderTienMinh☽ (discussion) 22:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- @DefenderTienMinh07 You should talk to him for complaining before. You can't do or you don't want to do? Đơn giản là tôi (talk) 02:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- He is indefinitely blocked without any means to contact (no email, no TPA). Thingofme (talk) 05:53, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- Like me, I don't know why him blocked me by reasonː Rối ? (Even though he not making a request to CheckUsser) VP PRM VIR💬📝 04:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- He is indefinitely blocked without any means to contact (no email, no TPA). Thingofme (talk) 05:53, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- @DefenderTienMinh07 You should talk to him for complaining before. You can't do or you don't want to do? Đơn giản là tôi (talk) 02:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
- How can I even complaining to him when he can block me from editing? He's quite strong there. I cannot do anything. ☀DefenderTienMinh☽ (discussion) 22:37, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: As a Vietnamese Wikipedia administrator, I agree to lift the block on DefenderTienMinh07 after more than a year of probation under the indefinite block, as I find some of the information above to be reasonable, and overall, he is not a sockpuppet of "Trieu Thuan Son". However, it should also be noted that this user has previously engaged in "gaming the system" behavior within the Vietnamese Wikipedia community. Therefore, I hope that he will make improvements to interact harmoniously with the community. Let me reiterate that the Vietnamese Wikipedia community is facing an intense situation with sockpuppet accounts, and mistakes are always possible and unavoidable. We have done our best within our capacity, even though this is only a voluntary role, and it is passion alone that keeps us going on this journey. Thank you to anyone who has read this. Plantaest (talk) 14:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)