Requests for comment/Sysop (Fastily) abuse on Commons
The following request for comments is closed. Meta RfCs are not a substitute for local dispute resolution procedures. Commons has working desysop procedures and policy and ample admins' noticeboard where this issue can be discussed and any possible outcome can be explored. This RfC did not suggest why local dispute resolution avenues are unfit to handle this matter, and I can see no reason either. Snowolf How can I help? 18:22, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
This close and deletion by Fastily : commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Template:PD-NJGov was both against consensus and contrary to law. The close was contrary to policy, to boot. I put a bunch of work into ensuring we were reading the law correctly and were on solid ground.
Also, there's no way to recover the images that have been deleted because of this abuse of authority. See commons:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive 17#Large undeletion needed. So it's important that admins not take hasty action like this. --Elvey (talk) 20:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- This probably isn't the best place to raise these concerns; try the admins' noticeboard on Commons. I know that similar issues have been brought up with Fastily there before. Ajraddatz (Talk) 04:49, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
- FYI - If commons was a normal local wiki, I'd never have opened the discussion here. However, it isn't. It's primary purpose, IMO, is to provide a central repository for free files for use by the other local wikis. So its impact is cross-wiki. The admins there are unable to handle recovery of mass deletions - even ones that no one disputes should be undone. Furthermore, unfortunately, some think its primary purpose is to provide a repository from which have been removed not only any files that we have good reason to think are not free (which is a good thing and a valid goal) BUT ALSO from which have been removed any files that we have even kooky, far-fetched reasons to think are not free as well (a bad thing and harmful to the projects). Also, my only knowledge of any "desysop procedures" comes from the Kuiper fiascos, and so I wouldn't call them "working", based on that admittedly quite limited knowledge. So those are reasons I see local dispute resolution avenues are unfit to handle these matters. But, I'll make further efforts there as suggested, on AN. To the extent that these issues have been brought up on AN with Fastily before, what do you recall of note? (ATM I can just hope that http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Fastily&prefix=Commons%3AAdministrators%27+noticeboard&fulltext=Search+in+all+noticeboard+archives&fulltext=Search astops giving me 'An error has occurred while searching: HTTP request timed out.' and I can then search through what then comes up.) --Elvey (talk) 20:45, 11 August 2013 (UTC)