Meta:Requests for translation adminship/DannyS712

DannyS712

DannyS712 (talk • contribs • deleted user contributions • logs • block log • abuse log • CentralAuth • stalktoy) Bureaucrats: user rights management.

I am a translation administrator on mediawiki, and would also like to be able to contribute here. There are currently (as of 10:12, 5 July 2019 (UTC)) 1306 pages that have been changed since they were last marked for translation, including changes that were reverted, and I would help reduce this number by reviewing the new revisions and tagging them for translation again so that changes in English would propagate to other languages. I can confirm that I have read mw:Help:Extension:Translate/Page translation example and mw:Help:Extension:Translate/Page translation administration. Thanks for considering my request, --DannyS712 (talk) 10:12, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support is an experienced user.--Turkmen ^talk 12:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose hat collector with no real need. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:21, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Are there some other examples of hat collecting? --MF-W 08:34, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose and strongly. Per TonyBallioni and I see absolutely no demonstrated need for this aside from another feather in your cap. Praxidicae (talk) 17:24, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Praxidicae and TonyBallioni: a week ago I posted a list of 32 links at Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat asking for the pages to be re-tagged for translation. Of those, 20 still have changes that haven't been marked for translation, or have been changed since then. If there is an easier way for them to be remarked for translation, then I'll do that, but it seems that the simplest way to update the pages would be just tagging them myself. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:30, 5 July 2019 (UTC)`[reply]

Quite simply, I don't trust you. You're a 9 month old account who has rushed to insert himself into every single process on all wikis on which you are active. On en.wiki you take over any user script the instant a user retires and makes it your own, you lecture people who have been here longer than you and know more than you on how processes they're intimiately involved with work, and you're quickly accumulating rights that quite frankly, you have no need for but can give a facially valid reason at the time of request. It is when the entire pattern is considered that the issue becomes apparent. While meta may have a need for translations that need approval, I don't think you need to be the one approving them. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:43, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose --Rs chen 7754 18:25, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral They are quite active in mediawiki translation namespace marking pages for translation, I have no doubt in their competency. However, I see no demonstrated need here (to be honest, those 32 pages not all needs updating as some of the pages may have non marked pages mainly due to vandalism (and they are highly visible pages - so no doubt these are edited frequently). I appreciate their many contributions in Translation namespace here. For me, I feel hat collectors should have the hat if they wanted as long as they show a clue on how to use it, and I can sense they will use it, I'm fine in granting flags that may just be hats. It's basically a risk-free candidate but there's no need for that flag at this present moment. I will not oppose based on hat collecting but will not be inclined to support (basically due to tenure - you need time to be familiar with this wiki) which places me here. --Cohaf (talk) 06:24, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with the above, except I would venture to say that a need for the right has been demonstrated. AGK ■ 09:45, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's a need as the pages doesn't really needed to be marked (as the latest version doesn't differs materially with the last marked version that significantly). If they came here and ask for TA as they have a User Group to manage, or they are involved in some sort of campaign or edit-thorn I will see this as valid demonstrated need. Otherwise, I also agree with your comments below.--Cohaf (talk) 09:58, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 01:13, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. TonyBallioni (above) raises valid questions about the long-term utility of this user's right requests and about the user's motive for filing requests. However, I don't think we should be debating those questions on a request for minor rights. This user is experienced in translation and has a demonstrated need for this right. Let's grant the right and deal with the underlying concerns when it comes to be that they matter. AGK ■ 09:43, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support agreed with AGK on this one. The user has a need for the rights (has requested marking for translation in the past), and if they misuse the rights then they can be removed. – Ajraddatz (talk) 21:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per AGK and Ajraddatz. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:36, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support per AGK and Ajraddatz. Jianhui67^{talk★contribs} 08:58, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support - as per AGK and Ajraddatz. Good luck! Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 09:43, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support - If they are really hat collectors, they are not the ones who just gather a hat, put it aside and then collect another one but they have been using their hats to benefit the community. (They have been actively using nearly all of their permissions that they have gained: PCR, NPR, responding to template edit requests, closing requested moves and MMS). Skimming through their contributions on enWP, however, what I see is not a hat collector but an enthusiastic editor trying to make the encyclopedia better from every aspect and then they came to help other projects, trying to have an influence on the Wikimedia Movement as a whole. There are hundreds of pages in Special:PageTranslation and I see some of them have been prepared but never marked for translation as well as ones that have been updated instead of just being vandalized. Other multilingual sites do not have such a long queue but meta does. Now a competent editor is offering services to eliminate the backlog and we should be glad to accept. In brief, I do not think they are a hat collector and I see no issues within the request itself. --94rain ^Talk 10:19, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. Tony and Prax's opposition is pretty compelling but per the others I'm frankly not seeing any issues with such a minor right. Hiàn (talk) 19:46, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Question: . Thank you for specifying that you have read the relevant documentation pages. Could you also provide links to the pages you have tagged for translation yourself so I and others could make a quick review of it? Be it on MediaWiki wiki or here. In fact I have tried to find one and encountered this edit. Are you aware that you should not add the translation markers (e.g. ) yourself since they are added automatically by the extension when you mark the page for translation (well, unless you are marking for translation a revert etc.)? --Base (talk) 23:05, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Base: before I was a translation admin on mediawiki, I didn't know that the tags were added automatically, and so would prepare pages manually so that they would just need to be marked for translation. That edit, however, was made manually because I wanted to split the translation units to be more manageable, and had previously gotten into the habit of adding the tags manually, so it only took a minute to split. I'm unsure what you are looking for - the edit made by the extension when I marked a page for translation? --DannyS712 (talk) 03:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per Ajraddatz. Braveheart (talk) 19:31, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Matiia (talk) 02:32, 17 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]