Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat/Archives/2011-03

Wikimedia Brasil

I am a volunteer of the Wikimedia Brazil, one of the chapters under discussion, recently the pages of the Wikimedia Brazil here suffered vandalism and I would ask them to be restored. There was an improper request for moved[1] a user outside the Brazilian group that does not support current views. Barras did not want to undo the move, claiming that the user has done more for Wiki than I, even though I was a participant in the Brazilian chapter, and she's Portuguese chapter.

To understand what is happening. The user who made the request handling is contrary to the current movement in Brazil, and she is using tools to disrupt and undermine the chapter, making incorrect statements, trying to untie the Brazilian community to the current name Wikimedia Brazil. She's Portuguese community, wanting to interfere with the Brazilian community. Only there is no other Brazilians trying to restore, to know that there is no discussion with her.

In fact, I'm just asking for the reversal, but in personal emails have already talked about that would be better to ask to block her, giving the option to undo what she did. Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 13:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Referencing

Hi, we're setting up an alternative wiki. In this wiki, the references don't seem to work.

The <ref>, <references /> etc. don't do what they're supposed to, instead appear as plain text.

What could be wrong? Thanks.142.150.208.25 23:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Check special:version there and ensure that you have mw:Extension:Cite/Cite.php installed, first. The references tags aren't installed and enabled in MediaWiki. Have a nice day! Kylu 23:24, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Brasil

After asking to move the pages related to Wikimedia Brasil in order to "create a new proposal for the chapter", Beria (talk · contribs · CA) simply doesn't accept changes in this "new" proposal, and is now saying that the proposal is from 2006, in order to not allow any further changes. I was trying to 1) take off the use of Wikimedia Portugal as a model for the Brazilian bylaws; or 2) include another chapters as models to our bylaws as well. Any of these options were "allowed" by this user. I tried to explain this on the talk page, but it seems that she doesn't want to discuss that. In my talk page, she said I don't care for the proposal (which is a lie, I've signed it as interested). I think she's trying to force a version by edit war, promote her own chapter (Beria is a member of Wikimedia Portugal) and do not let other editors to help building this proposal, altogether (as a wiki), for the Brazilian chapter. I ask you some help in order to keep the protection to the page, but also to move the discussion forward, or there will not be any dialogue until the end of the protection. CasteloBranco^msg 19:59, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

P.S. I already tried to invite her to the talk page, but it didn't work. CasteloBranco^msg 20:01, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

The current protection expires in one week. Please explain what technical function you would like the sysops or bureaucrats to perform. We can't really make people get along or agree on things. :) Kylu 20:04, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I want you to block her, if she keeps avoiding to discuss the change in the talk page. Until the page is protected in "her" version, she probably will not be willing to discuss anything, and the protection won't work. CasteloBranco^msg 20:19, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Beria in this case. Portugal and Brazil's chapters have many similarities, that's why I believe Portugal's bylaws are more apropriate here, even because there are already a proposed bylaws and the WMPT one are only there to support. Vini 175 20:57, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

So why don't you use the talk page? CasteloBranco^msg 21:31, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Maybe because you brought the discussion here. Béria Lima ^msg 21:34, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

And btw, be a part of Wikimedia Portugal don't take me my nacionality (I'm brazilian, i was always one and will be one until die). Help other chapter don't remove my desire to have a chapter in my country, so please don't use ad hominem here. Béria Lima ^msg 21:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Please note that I'm not trying to bring the discussion here, but to make the discussion on the talk page move forward, because it's not something between me and you (it's something for the Chapter), and you were not arguing, just reverting me. I invited you to the talk page, before coming here ("Please, use the talk page and try to reach a consensus before reinsert this redundant information"), remember? CasteloBranco^msg 21:44, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

From my impression of things, Beria has been engaging you in discussion on the talk page and here. If you would like to make a request for sysop action then please restate your request and reasoning. I think this particular request could be closed unless you have something to add. Thank you. Theo10011 17:13, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I pointed my arguments on the talk page and she couldn't argue. I'm explaning all my concerns on the actual version and all the changes I'm proposing. But she is refusing to discuss the issue. So, the protection will not solve. Therefore, I will edit again, unless you extend the protection (I agree with that) or block her in order to avoid her to make those unjustified reverts. What I can't accept is that she will be the only person in the planet allowed to edit that page. So, I ask you to extend the protection, until the discussion on the talk page advance. One week will not be enough, by the way. CasteloBranco^msg 20:14, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

So, let me get this straight, you are requesting a block because she is not arguing with you? The page was protected to stop edit warring. I am not completely aware of the situation but do you have a clear request for sysop here? Thanks. Theo10011 20:28, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Extend the protection. CasteloBranco^msg 20:38, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Never mind. I ask you to close this request. I was trying to help you, but if you don't want to be aware or have a little more than "impressions", we'll get the same in a few days. Thanks, CasteloBranco^msg 21:51, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Done (by Hoo man) [2] Closing request, sorry I couldn't be of more help. Theo10011 12:47, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Help required with Dutch version of March 2011 Update

Can someone help me with this: Talk:CentralNotice/March_2011_Update#Dutch banner contains annoying spelling mistake? SpeakFree 21:33, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Done (by Cbrown1023) - Hoo man (talk) 23:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

CentralNotice/Log

There doesn't seem to be a logged comment for the creation of the current CentralNotice/March 2011 Update banner. (I know I'm neither a Meta administrator nor a staff member of the Wikimedia Foundation, but shouldn't that page be protected?) :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, looks like someone didn't log it. I'm not sure I see a need to protect that page though, can you explain your reasoning? Philippe (WMF) 06:59, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

The notice in the header at the top of the log page implies that only those people who are Meta administrators or Wikimedia Foundation staff members are allowed to log the page, but regular editors like me are not allowed to. If that is true, it would be wise to enforce that notion, I think, by having it so restricted to the user groups I mentioned above. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:03, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

It's only used by those people because those are the only ones who can make edits to running notices. It's not because you cannot edit the log page. Cbrown1023 talk 20:33, 14 March 2011 (UTC)