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The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a closed Meta-Wiki request. Please do not modify it.

OchilovBot

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The bot will perform cosmetic fixes to content articles on Meta in translations (adding/removing unnecessary spaces, changeg lowercase to uppercase in templates when needed, etc.), so it will be easier to read and edit them. It also will decrease a workload of translation administrators and all others, who takes care about pages in translation and pages proposed for translation. --Ochilov (talk) 15:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Adding/removing spaces on translation pages does actually have a significant effect (depending on where the whitespaces are) as it may cause translation units to be split up or merged. How do you plan to fix that? Also what's the definition of "unnecessary" here? Plus this would require a translation admin to mark the pages for translation again for it to be propagated to the translated pages. I don't like having an even larger backlog (considering that we already have a huge backlog) of pages with changes to be marked for translation. --Glaisher (talk) 16:42, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Glaisher, actually, my point I want to make here is that fixes will not break translation blocks. Everything was taken into account. The bot will just make general fixes, like ===Text=== -> === Text ===, [[category:]] -> [[Category:]], etc. About requiring marking these pages again - I will browse my bot's contributions and do that or we can give him TA flag later if it causes a lot of traffic. So the bot can make changes and the pages will not have to be marked again :3 --Ochilov (talk) 16:49, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also "cosmetic fixes" and "etc." is a bit ambiguous. Can you list all the tasks which this would undertake? --Glaisher (talk) 16:44, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Glaisher, as I answered above + [[Text|text]] -> [[text]], [[text|texts]] -> [[text]]s. Tasks like these. --Ochilov (talk) 16:52, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I would count this kind of edits as dummy edits that should not be done. --Stryn (talk) 17:07, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Stryn, I am from Russian Wikipedia where these adits should be done to get the selected status for the article. I like when everything is perfect. :# --Ochilov (talk) 17:23, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
On Russian Wikipedia these changes are mostly done with the script called Wikificator which does a lot of such cosmetic and typographic changes when a user presses its button on editbar while editing a page (you, I believe, know it, explaining was for users not familiar with it.) I think the best would be to try to implement some Wikificator version for Meta, that would indeed help TAs. But I'd rather no bot was making such edits and it will indeed create a backlog and I'm not sure to mark pages for translation via bot is a good idea as some stuff could indeed get broken so its better to have it under human control. --Base (talk) 18:41, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
per Base. Sort of Wikificator will be much better (especially if it will be able to detect not properly closed tags). Maybe you need to work on that or think about some other purpose for your bot -- Ата (talk) 10:11, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ата, yeah, we really need wikificator. I will ask for it later on phabricator, now Request withdrawn, as there is no useof bot (for now) --Ochilov (talk) 10:49, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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