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Indic Wikisource Hepldesk is a platform to ask or discuss topics-related to Wikisource. Please discuss topics related to Wikisource below. Before you start, a few notes:

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Difference Between Overfloat and Float template

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I want to know about what is overfloat template? How it is different from float template? --*•.¸♡ ℍ𝕒𝕣𝕕𝕒𝕣𝕤𝕙𝕒𝕟 𝔹𝕖𝕟𝕚𝕡𝕒𝕝 ♡¸.•*^{𝕋𝕒𝕝𝕜} 10:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Overfloat: floats a span past the left/right margin of the text, so it appears further to the left/right.
Float: floats text to the left/right without changing the alignment, and allows remaining text on page to wrap around the text. (answered from template documentation) — Hrishikes (talk) 01:19, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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taWS: not able to insert wiki markup in footer

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See the footerWhile i am clicking to insert the button (<.small>), the code did not appears in footer. But appearing in middle column. why?Finally i inserted manually.--Info-farmer (talk) 01:38, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

@Info-farmer: — I have checked. I could not find the "small" option. But I clicked other options of Wiki markup given at the page bottom in edit mode, and they did appear in the footer. Hrishikes (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

@@Info-farmer: same for me. You are using old மீடியாவிக்கி:Gadget-Edittools.js, you may user மீடியாவிக்கி:Gadget-charinsert-core.js. Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 15:37, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jayanta (CIS-A2K):What are all the differences? How to use it?--Info-farmer (talk) 16:22, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Both are action wise same. But methodology of template categorization are different. Jayantanth (talk) 02:56, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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How to upload files (size > 100 MB)

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I want to upload a Sanskrit text in commons. Its size is >212 MB. i compressed this PDF. Even then it is >114 MB. I tried to upload in commons. But I am getting the message - files >100 MB cannot be upladed. Please guide me. Shubha (talk) 07:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

You can use the chunk upaload utility for uploade size > 100 MB file. there is the help page https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Chunked_upload. Jayantanth (talk) 09:38, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

@Shubha: You can alternatively use a batch upload tool such as Commons:VicuñaUploader. Satdeep Gill (talk) 11:35, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

start section

@Jayantanth: https://sa.wikisource.org/s/1qyz In this page start section is not working.Soorya Hebbar (talk) 08:44, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Page number was wrongJayantanth (talk) 08:33, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

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How to upload new version of the text

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While uploading new version will title remain the same ? If we have finished editing in the previous version how to move it to the new version ?

• Here is the previous version [1]

• Here is the new version [2] I changed the title little bit. Now it has become a new file.

Please guide me how to proceed ? Shubha (talk) 10:59, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

First You Have to decided Two thinks

1. When your proofreading have NOT DONE any page, you can update the file very easily, by clicking below "Upload a new version of this file "।
2. When your proofreading have DONE all pages or few pages, you have to confirm the pagination of the both book should be equal. If the both books equal pagination , then you can uplaod the new version and overwrite by clicking below "Upload a new version of this file ".

Jayantanth (talk) 02:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

@Jayantanth: Sorry I didn't understand how to upload and overwrite. There is only one option - Upload a new version of this file. If we have to upload first then what should be the name of the text ? Same as older one ? Shubha (talk) 04:37, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. We could successfully upload new version of the text. Shubha (talk) 11:26, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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How to upload big files in local wiki ?

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@Jayantanth: In Sanskrit wikisource I am not finding chunk upaload utility. How to upload here ? Shubha (talk) 11:30, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

How to install

Add

importScript('User:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js');

to your common.js.

Global or foreign wiki installation

Note that the uploads always go to the wiki you are on! Cross-Wiki upload is not supported yet.

Add

mw.loader.load( 'https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' );

to your global.js.

Make sure you remove any imports of this script at Wikimedia Commons before enabling global import, i.e. check your common.js and vector.js (or monobook.js respectively) that you do not import the script there.

How to use

Overwriting an existing file

1. Choose the second option of the upload link of any file page:

   Upload a new version of this file (chunked upload)

2. Fill out the reason field in the pop up and select the file to upload.

Creating a new file

1. Navigate to File:DesiredFileName.ext. Please amend the file name before selecting a file to be useful.
2. Press upload (chunked) from your "Tools" box in the sidebar, or from the drop-down menu next to the create (or edit) tab. The location of the link depends on your system and settings.
3. Fill out the file description field in the pop up and then select the file to upload.

Done. Thank you so much for teaching in such detail. Shubha (talk) 05:20, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

@Jayantanth: Today I tried to create new file. I gave file name as kaavyaprakasha.ext. Upload failed. 'File name is not allowed' is the message I got. it is PDF file. How to give the name ? - Shubha (talk) 12:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Doing...Jayantanth (talk) 07:38, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

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Formatting Help

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I need a help in formatting, I want to place Two Photos Adjacent to each other without any text in between. The page link is given below:

This is page 2

s:gu:પૃષ્ઠ:Jaybhikhkhu Biography.pdf/૯

Link

--Sushant savla (talk) 08:18, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

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Formatting Help 1

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I need formating help in placing once box over the other as shown in the printd page. The link is given below:

This is page 5

Link

--Sushant savla (talk) 08:23, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Done by Hrishikesh --Sushant savla (talk) 08:23, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

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Display options@aswikisource

Hi. I need some help in configuring the display options in sidebar of As.wikisource. I translated the lines the mediawiki page but "Display 1" is still shown in English and "Page links displayed", "Page links beside text" these two options are not shown. Gitartha.bordoloi (talk) 09:11, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Doing...Jayantanth (talk) 07:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Audio Speeches

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There are several audio files having speeches of Gandhi on Commons can they be documented on Wikisource? I found something similar on Gordon Brown here.Any I puts on the ideal format would be of help. Thanks--Abhinav619 (talk) 04:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

We can do that, but we to discuss about the format and will explore the technical possibilities to proofread the source/video as like book scan. Jayantanth (talk) 07:53, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Abhinav619: , for an eaxmple s:en:Index:Sintel_movie_4K.webmJayantanth (talk) 17:37, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

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Inscript typing

@Jayantanth:@Ananth subray:@Info-farmer:usually we use alt+fullstop to type "॥", while using inscript key board. and press alt+shift+fullstop for "ऽ". These two symbols are used frequenty in samskrit shlokas. but both are not working in wiki. neither in inscript nor in inscript2 Soorya Hebbar (talk) 09:17, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Doing...Jayantanth (talk) 12:50, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Case Study about Bengali Wikisource 10th Anniversary Proofreading Contest

Apologies for posting this here. This might not be the perfect place to publish this but I couldn't think of any other appropriate on-wiki page where I can connect with the Indic Wikisource community.

As an effort to document projects related to Wikisource, we have started by writing the first case study about Case Study about Bengali Wikisource 10th Anniversary Proofreading Contest held in 2017 with the help of contest organizers Bodhisattwa and Jayantanth. If you know about, or have organized interesting Wikisource related projects that you would like to be documented in form of a case study, feel free to reach out to me at sgillwikimedia.org.

-- SGill (WMF) (talk) 12:53, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Formatting Help for a Table

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We are executing a pilot project to convert the Gujarati Wiki source book in Audio Format. One Sample Book is created s:gu:User:Sushant savla/sandbox/ંAudio Book. I seek Help in making this page attractive. where in the table has boundaries, all three columns have different back ground colors, alternate rows have shading of dark and light. --Sushant savla (talk) 16:45, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

• These are possible, let's start with having a look at en:Help:Table and en:Wikipedia:User page design center/Style. Or if you want I can make a copy of the content on my sandbox and start formatting. Regards. -- Tito Dutta (talk) 03:28, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Help from you will be quicker i guess. --Sushant savla (talk) 09:14, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

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Where i can find the symbol circle to place in header?

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in this page, I am using Letter'O' for circle (symbol). I want to place exact circle symbol. When i contribute, many times i need many symbols like copyright, phone, arrow.. Is there any exact list?--Info-farmer (talk) 04:18, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Here is your symbols ⃝ , ◯ use which ever convenient. Use can use சிறப்பு எழுத்துருக்கள் -> குறருக்ன், there u ca find basic symbols. For other symbols go to google and in search box type symbol name followed by unicode for example "Circle unicode" u will get symbol in search reasult, copy and paste the required symbol or use Alt keys. This is how i do it. --Sushant savla (talk) 14:16, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Excellent guidance. Thanks indeed for the unicode searching tip, Bro! In edit tools( சிறப்பு எழுத்துருக்கள் -> குறிகள்) many symbols are missing. so that i asked here. --Info-farmer (talk) 08:01, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

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NopInserter Gadget

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Hi all, I tried installing Nopinterter gadget in Tamil wikisource. But it is not working. Help will be highly appreciated -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 03:10, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Balajijagadesh:, is that issue still persist? Jayantanth (talk) 17:21, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

@Jayantanth: I have requested @Jayprakash12345:. He is working on this. He is testing the tool. waiting from his end. -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 00:07, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Jayantanth & Balajijagadesh Ji, Done wikisource:ta:பயனர்:Jayprakash12345/Gadget-NopInserter.js--Jayprakash >>> Talk 12:02, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

@Jayprakash12345 and Jayantanth: The tool now is working nicely. Thank you so much. Regards -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 02:11, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

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Issues in Transcluding

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I have Transcluded this Book I have issue in Page Border. The Outer border of Page iPage 1 The page border of page 1 of the book is extended on etire trancluded book page.It should be limited to page 1 only. kindly help--Sushant savla (talk) 07:02, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I think problem was shorted. Jayantanth (talk) 17:07, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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problem in loading pdf page

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@Jayantanth:There is a problem with some books regarding loading pdf page. eg-अलङ्कारमणिहारः (भागः ३). The source file in commons is also effected. But it hasn't deletedSoorya Hebbar (talk) 11:40, 9 July 2019 (UTC).

@Soorya Hebbar:, apology for late reply. I have fixed the issue this. There was a rendering problem. How do I fix this? Please have a look at this video. Jayantanth (talk) 14:24, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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Problem in proofreading Index page

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There is some problem in Index pages 255, 256, 257 of the book Index:Young_India.pdf. Problem in the sense dont know how to proofread the index pages. If one page is proofread for sample or some similar examples, it would be easy to continue the proofreading. Because of this the book is incomplete. @Jayantanth: @Abhinav619: -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 00:11, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

I have been trying to take help from different editors on this. Apparently there are rules on English Wikisource different from Indic. Expanding the Wikisource Handbook which provides such help may be a good idea. @Ananth subray and Bodhisattwa:. --Abhinav619 (talk) 10:43, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

@Balajijagadesh and Abhinav619: As an example you could follow this Page:Romain Rolland Handel.djvu/214 Jayantanth (talk) 14:28, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

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OCR/Crop-Tool Buttons Not Reflecting

Hello, I have copied all commands from my English Wikisource account to Hindi Wikisource as can be seen here. However, OCR, Crop Tool buttons etc are not showing up. Please help.--Abhinav619 (talk) 11:14, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Please import the Mediawiki:Cropimage.js and use the following JS. 

mw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Indic-TechCom/Script/IndicOCR.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); mw.loader.load("//hi.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Mediawiki:Cropimage.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript"); --Ananth subray (talk) 13:13, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Ananth subray: not able to understand because the page is not in english. --Abhinav619 (talk) 12:15, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Import Rights Issue

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I had applied for importing rights from English and French Wikisource on meta. The rights were assigned. But i don't see import rights at s:gu:https://gu.wikisource.org/wiki/વિશેષ:આયાત [3] More over my request from Meta has been removed. --Sushant savla (talk) 11:52, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

@ @Sushant savla:,as per today's online support via desktop sharing, I have shown, how to import through XLM file. If you want import anything with XLM, you have to request to add "frws" and "enws" at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ its need community consensus.Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 15:50, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

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Formatting help

In this page I am facing problem in formatting. I would apprecaite some help. --Armaan kakrala (talk) 01:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Formatting help sa.wikisource

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|n this page, it seems there is mistake in the order of the number mentioned in the original text incorrect. Is there any template to publish the number which seems correct, with the numbers, mentioned in original text. @Jayanta (CIS-A2K): @Info-farmer: @Sayant Mahato: - Soorya Hebbar (talk) 06:41, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

the issue was solved. Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 15:28, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

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Bot Access

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please help me for creating bot Access --Pooja Jadhav (talk) 05:33, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Please follow the below procedure,

• You should create a separate account in order to operate a bot. The account's name should identify the bot function (e.g. <Task>Bot), or the operator's main account (e.g. <Username>Bot). In this case, your User's name would be "Pooja Jadhav Bot". So, please create a new account called "User:Pooja Jadhav Bot".

(The contributions of a bot account remain the responsibility of its operator, whose account must be prominently identifiable on its user page. In particular, the bot operator is responsible for the repair of any damage caused by a bot that operates incorrectly. All policies apply to a bot account in the same way as to any other user account. Bot accounts are considered alternative accounts of their operator. Bot accounts should not be used for contributions that do not fall within the scope of the bot's designated tasks. In particular, bot operators should not use a bot account to respond to messages related to the bot. Bot operators may wish to redirect a bot account's discussion page to their own.)

• As all of Indic Wikisource has no separate bo policies, you have to post your request at your Local VP for the bot account via login with Bot account. Wait one week for community consensus.
• After one week, go to Steward Bot request page add your request with the below format.

Making a request

1. Place the following code at the bottom of the "Bot status requests" section below:

   === Pooja Jadhav Bot@mrwikisource ===
   {{sr-request
    |status    = <!--don't change this line-->
    |domain    = me.wikisource.org
    |user name = User:Pooja Jadhav Bot
    |discussion= <!--your mr wikisource VP request for Bot link-->
   }}
   (your remarks) ~~~~
   

   --Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 07:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

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formatting help - ta.WS - Rotate text cropping image

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i used the rotate text template in this page : https://ta.wikisource.org/s/8yng which is having few issues. Kindly solve--Info-farmer (talk) 02:28, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Done Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 07:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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Samskrit Wikisource - Assistance to upload files in Wikicommons

We are having a huge collection of old texts in Scanned format which we would like to upload in wikicommons.

Currently we are working on segregation of our archive according to the publishing year. Basically we are selecting files to upload on wikicommons. Till date we have 1275 number of books in two categories

1.    books published before 1940  and

2.    books published between 1941-59.

These books are also sub-categorised according to their streams.

A brief outlook about the details of books is here –

Category	Published before 1959	No author, no year
Category- Darshanam
Buddhism	47	3
Jainism	72	9
Mimamsa	50	4
Nyaya	90	4
Sankhya	12	4
Visheshika	28	0
Yoga	42	28
sarvadarshana sangraha	7	1
Shaddarshana samuchchaya	5	1
Vallabha	1	1
Upanishad	65	11
Category- Sahityam
Gadyam	31	1
Padyam	30	8
Champu	12	1
Katha	64	1
Natakam	368	117
Alankara Shastra	85	31
Category- Veda
Rigveda	6	8
Yajurveda	13	0
Samaveda	38	8
Atharvaveda	9	0
Samhita	7	1
Brahmana	95	8
Aranyaka	16	2
Shruti	3	0
Other Vedic Books	17	1
Category- Upaveda
Ayurveda	41	0
Dhanurveda	0	0
Gandharvaveda	1	0
Sthapatya	2	0
Agama	11	0
Purana	7	31
TOTAL	1275	284

Also there are many old texts (284) which do not have sufficient publishing details.

I could say that only 20% of the segregation of files has been done so far. This process is going on. So there will be natural increase in the number of files in the categories mentioned above.

Hence one can understand the magnitude of the uploading task. On behalf of Samskrit Wiki Community I would like to request for technical assistance to upload these copyright free texts to the commons.-Sayant Mahato ^talk 09:31, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Sayant Mahato:, we will get back to you with details. very soon. Jayantanth (talk) 19:11, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Odia Wikisource Status

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As per verbal request from User:Subas Chandra Rout, I have published the Odia Wikisource Status as on June 2020. Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 10:50, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

DoneJayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 10:51, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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The PDF image is gets loaded and vanishes in Page Name Space - GuWS

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Due to some script error the PDF Image on Page Name space gets loaded for a fraction of second and gets vanished in Page name space. Because of which we are not able to OCR or Proofread the page. The Error was diagnosed at Phabricator at T261420 and they advised to correct the script at local level. I need help in correcting the script. --Sushant savla (talk) 03:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Done and fixed the isses by the tech team at

T261420 Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 16:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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Issue with loading wikisource pages

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@Jayanta (CIS-A2K): @Satdeep Gill: Wikisource website is working very slowly. We are facing a lot of problem while creating index pages, saving the pages etc. In this situation how we can conduct the proofread a thon? Soorya Hebbar ^talk 11:53, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Soorya Hebbar: May be this is due today's Technical maintenance server performing. Lets wait for one days. Jayantanth (talk) 13:35, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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Mass ocr tool

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@Jayanta (CIS-A2K): @Sayant Mahato: Is there any tool to do ocr of whole book through one click? Some users are editing using mobile. They are unable to ocr of the pages.Soorya Hebbar ^talk 07:29, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

@Sayant Mahato and Soorya Hebbar:, I would not encourage the wrong workflow of as Mass OCR to all pages, write now. If anyone is contributing via Mobile Phone, they should go to "Desktop" View to edit wikisource. Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 12:56, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

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how can i put a vertical rule over a horizondal rule ?

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how can i put a vertical rule over a horizondal rule ? I tried, 90% done. Look at the begining of the horizondal rule. need help. https://ta.wikisource.org/s/693u Info-farmer (talk) 04:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Done. Jayanta (CIS-A2K) (talk) 17:20, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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References in horizontal format

In this page How can i put the meaning in horizonal fomrat. I have used the <ref> gu:s:પૃષ્ઠ:Akhegita.pdf/૧૫--Sushant savla (talk) 14:42, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

You have to use custom css for that page:

ol.references {

display: inline-flex;

}

ol.references > li {

margin: 1em;

}

Put the code somewhere, like s:gu:પૃષ્ઠ:Akhegita.pdf/styles.css, and call it in the first line of the s:gu:પૃષ્ઠ:Akhegita.pdf/૧૫ using:

✒ Bennylin 18:19, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

How to place dot line which vary in every lines of a page?

s:ta:பக்கம்:பாவாணர் தமிழ்க் களஞ்சியம் 1.pdf/19 Note: This is not the content page of the book and its a quick reference page.Info-farmer (talk) 03:57, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

s:Template:Dotted TOC page listing ✒ Bennylin 17:54, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

wikifile-transfer does not transfer details

Hi Most of the time when I need to upload any Non-free fair use photo, I use this wikifile-transfer tool. But the problem is that it only transfer the image not the file details form the source file and then we have to add details like licensing and description manually. Can you please fix this. Jagseer S Sidhu (talk) 04:27, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

You might want to contact the developer of the tool: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indic-TechCom/Tools/Wikifile-transfer&action=history (@Jayprakash12345) ✒ Bennylin 09:14, 8 August 2023 (UTC)