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Latest comment: 9 years ago by AddisWang in topic Addis' Comment

Coordination of OpenBadges efforts

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There have been several proposals related with OpenBadges in Wikimedia, and there is even an extension in an early phase of development that has been written once -- see See mw:OpenBadges and the OpenBadges project in Phabricator. It would be useful to see how this initiative fits in this context, and whether there is a plan for collaboration. Having another separate effort would not be as useful, and it would have more chances to end up not reaching the critical mass that the introduction of OpenBadges in Wikimedia would require.--Qgil-WMF (talk) 05:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for providing the links. I read the mw:OpenBadges and Badges pages. These discussions were continuing for last few years and there is no visible update on this area. I believe a OpenBadge system should be implemented. Then this can be used for the contributors of the Wikimedia projects and different programs related to the Wikimedia. Discussions on those pages covers several areas and tracks and plan to integrate with the core Mediawiki. I also agrees that all of these should be done.
The project i applied will cover a small subset of the area discussed earlier on those pages. So this project is completely aligned with the larger goal (mentioned in mw:OpenBadges). On the mw:Extension:OpenBadges page i could not find any documentation or discussion and i do not know much about it. When i will have full details i might be able to say if it can be useful.
In the proposal i mentioned that i want to build a standalone tool. If there is a standalone working version then it might be easy to transfer it into a extension or include into mediawiki core. I hope i answered your queries. thanks --Nasir Khan Saikat (talk) 11:26, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'm curious why you proposed to implement this as a standalone tool instead of integrating this into the MediaWiki extension. I think the latter would definitely be a much better way to go about it and see a lot more use than a standalone tool. YuviPanda (talk) 23:45, 20 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
What is the projected cost of postage over six-months for the mailing of the badges? or "in last 2/3 month i may need part time assistance to mail the badges to the postal addresses"?Geraldshields11 (talk) 21:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Eligibility confirmed, round 2 2015

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This Individual Engagement Grant proposal is under review!

We've confirmed your proposal is eligible for round 2 2015 review. Please feel free to ask questions and make changes to this proposal as discussions continue during this community comments period.

The committee's formal review for round 2 2015 begins on 20 October 2015, and grants will be announced in December. See the schedule for more details.

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Marti (WMF) (talk) 17:44, 19 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Addis' Comment

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How does this tool applied in different Wikipedia and languages.--AddisWang (talk) 14:36, 21 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Aggregated feedback from the committee for WikiBadge

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Scoring criteria (see the rubric for background) Score
1=weak alignment 10=strong alignment
(A) Impact potential
  • Does it fit with Wikimedia's strategic priorities?
  • Does it have potential for online impact?
  • Can it be sustained, scaled, or adapted elsewhere after the grant ends?
4.8
(B) Innovation and learning
  • Does it take an Innovative approach to solving a key problem?
  • Is the potential impact greater than the risks?
  • Can we measure success?
4.5
(C) Ability to execute
  • Can the scope be accomplished in 6 months?
  • How realistic/efficient is the budget?
  • Do the participants have the necessary skills/experience?
4.8
(D) Community engagement
  • Does it have a specific target community and plan to engage it often?
  • Does it have community support?
  • Does it support diversity?
3.8
Comments from the committee:
  • Could have great online impact because the badge is provides "digital marketing" about our participation.
  • May be key for editor retention, so may be worthwhile to fund (with changes)
  • It’s not clear how online impact is maximized by physically mailing badges, which doesn't seem to scale well.
  • The innovation is taking the badge system out of the Wikipedia realm and moving it to an external tool based on Wikistats that cannot be gamed by internal users (theoretically)
  • The budget is unclear ($1,500 or $15,000? I see both numbers). What stats will be considered? I would like to see a mockup. The scope of work needs further development.
  • Not all contributors are rewarded by edit counts. A "Wikipedia diploma" for editing classes is an alternative way for contributors to feel rewarded.
  • The proposer has not replied to queries on discussion page.
  • Support on Bengali Wikipedia, for the rest none (no outreach done on other projects)
  • Would like to see more measures of success (users with badge, software developed, etc...),
  • Mozilla Badges is an external project. I don't know if our users want to sign up through another page to show the WMF participation badges
  • Badge systems mirror the problems we have with the publish-or-perish measurements of Academia, involving systemic bias we also deal with in Wikimedia projects.
  • This simple collection of data is already present in other tools.
  • Based on the average salary in India, 12$ per hour is too high.
  • Quim mentions a way to integrate this better with ongoing programs, but no response has been made. Extension building is also suggested, also with no response.

Round 2 2015 decision

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This project has not been selected for an Individual Engagement Grant at this time.

We love that you took the chance to creatively improve the Wikimedia movement. The committee has reviewed this proposal and not recommended it for funding, but we hope you'll continue to engage in the program. Please drop by the IdeaLab to share and refine future ideas!

Comments regarding this decision:
While the WikiBadge tool may help address editor retention, we would love to see a more developed plan for this project’s budget and clearer measures for success. We encourage you to return to IEG in response to our feedback with any ideas you may have in the future.

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