Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Translation/Translatable language names
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Translatable language names
- Problem: Many language names do not have translations in MediaWiki. Wikidata, Commons structured data and the
{{#language:...}}
syntax often fall back to English instead. Translations cannot be easily added. - Proposed solution: Language names should be translatable on translatewiki.net. The CLDR data could be used to provide the initial set of translations so that only missing names need to be translated. Updates to CLDR could be used to update unedited translations and add translations that are missing.
- Who would benefit: Speakers of languages other than English.
- More comments: MediaWiki fetches translations of language names from CLDR. CLDR does not support all languages that MediaWiki supports and does not have (and does not intend to have) translations for all language names. The LocalNamesXx.php files can only be edited by submitting patches.
- Phabricator tickets: phab:T231755, phab:T231748, phab:T324892, phab:T157809, phab:T256649
- Proposer: Nikki (talk) 00:35, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
- @Nikki: one of the challenges in this area is to keep the translations in sync with CLDR. Currently it seems there is no way to automatically submit our translations to CLDR to update the translations. Given that limitation, it may be possible to make language names translatable in translatewiki.net to fill the missing languages with the caveat that translations from CLDR may overwrite them once they become available. Do you think an approach like this would still be valuable to support the request? Thanks! --Pginer-WMF (talk) 14:38, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Pginer-WMF Yes, I think it would be worth it. There are a lot of language names that CLDR doesn't have (~300 out of the ~700 that Wikidata supports) and there are a lot more language codes we would like to be added. Ideally it would use the CLDR data to update translatewiki (rather than using the CLDR name regardless of what translatewiki has), then it would be similar to someone manually changing your translations after you've done them. - Nikki (talk) 14:40, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Perfect. Thanks for the input @Nikki! Pginer-WMF (talk) 10:05, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Pginer-WMF Yes, I think it would be worth it. There are a lot of language names that CLDR doesn't have (~300 out of the ~700 that Wikidata supports) and there are a lot more language codes we would like to be added. Ideally it would use the CLDR data to update translatewiki (rather than using the CLDR name regardless of what translatewiki has), then it would be similar to someone manually changing your translations after you've done them. - Nikki (talk) 14:40, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Voting
- Strong support Important for languages CLDR does not support عُثمان (talk) 23:40, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support - PKM (talk) 00:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support LD (talk) 03:18, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Pallares (talk) 06:47, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Jurbop (talk) 07:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Remy34 (talk) 09:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Exilexi (talk) 09:09, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Oltrepier (talk) 10:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Waldyrious (talk) 11:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Plaga med (talk) 11:18, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Sabiusaugustus (talk) 11:39, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Joseph (talk) 13:16, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support RVA2869 (talk) 14:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support OwenBlacker (Talk) 15:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support CROIX (talk) 15:23, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Litev (talk) 17:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support De nue pw (talk) 22:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Nehaoua (talk) 22:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --NGC 54 (talk|contribs) 01:03, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Betseg (talk) 03:53, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Jusore (talk) 21:24, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 01:06, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Libcub (talk) 05:44, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Quiddity (talk) 21:15, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Laurent Meesseman (talk) 14:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Matma Rex (talk) 22:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Aishik Rehman (talk) 08:07, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Jon Harald Søby (talk) 12:22, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Tbartovic (talk) 20:04, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support 南屿小十233 (talk) 15:34, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Kuba Walczak (talk) 08:46, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support The translation should be supported. Thingofme (talk) 15:56, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Strong support The person who loves reading (talk) 21:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support cyrfaw (talk) 15:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Althair (talk) 01:59, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Good idea. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:52, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Tris T7 (talk) 19:29, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ABAL1412 (talk) 04:14, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Emilej01 (talk) 04:05, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support منى ناصر ثابت علام حُزين (talk) 15:59, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Dnshitobu (talk) 21:24, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support. —— Eric Liu(Talk) 04:08, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support OGPawlis (talk) 10:29, 24 February 2023 (UTC)