Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Notifications, Watchlists and Talk Pages/Enabling subscribe action for lower headers for specific pages (prefix)
Enabling subscribe action for lower headers for specific pages (prefix)
- Problem: Subscribe action only works for level 2 headers
- Proposed solution: I would suggest enabling subscriptions for lower section levels for specific subpages. That is, for example, by defining some prefixes in the Mediawiki namespace that are an exception to the global rule. In such cases, the subscription would be possible, for example, only for the third level. Or all levels up to 3rd (whatever is easier to do).
- Who would benefit: I think most large wikis would. With Meta:Srg, you could only subscribe to your request, not the whole thing. Another use case is RfC on en.wiki, where now you can only subscribe to the main discussion section, and you would like to subscribe to only one subsection, but you can't. The same goes for many polls on pl.wiki (e.g. sysop rights vote (PUA)) which can go even deeper.
- More comments: I know one could migrate some pages up a level (make level 2, level 1 and so on). But this brakes some bots and gadgets and in other cases is not feasible at all (you would have to have 0-level heading).
- Phabricator tickets: T275943
- Proposer: Nux (talk) 21:35, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Discussion
- I'll definitely be supporting this one once voting starts. Would be a nice efficiency. There's a whole class of Wikipedia-space pages that use L3/L4 headings for their daily business. Imagine being able to subscribe to just a single section of these enwiki projectspace pages, instead of the entire page: RFD, CFD, FFD, TFD, ITN/C, or RFPP/I. –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- Will the [subscribe] button show on projectspace pages (non-talk pages) such as w:Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 10? Might need to add some code to allow this, to go along with this task. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:22, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm, there must be a mechanism for this already, since w:WP:ANI has [subscribe] buttons. I don't know what the mechanism is though. A category or magic word or something? –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:34, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. There was a brief prior discussion in early December about that. Based on that I don't think there is a way to add subscriptions on any level now. It just happens auto-magically for level 2 headers (h2). The rfd/log you linked has h3 and h4 headers. The problem can be solved by migration of levels sometimes. But for sub-pages included in bigger pages this is hard-to-impossible. Nux (talk) 10:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Based on that I don't think there is a way to add subscriptions on any level now. I agree. This wish would fix that. Above I was just wondering why certain pages get a level 2 [subscription] button and certain pages don't get any [subscription] button. I thought it was by namespace, but I have found exceptions. –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Novem Linguae: [subscription] button appears if there is a signature (or any markup that resembles a signature) under the said section. —CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 21:26, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Based on that I don't think there is a way to add subscriptions on any level now. I agree. This wish would fix that. Above I was just wondering why certain pages get a level 2 [subscription] button and certain pages don't get any [subscription] button. I thought it was by namespace, but I have found exceptions. –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. There was a brief prior discussion in early December about that. Based on that I don't think there is a way to add subscriptions on any level now. It just happens auto-magically for level 2 headers (h2). The rfd/log you linked has h3 and h4 headers. The problem can be solved by migration of levels sometimes. But for sub-pages included in bigger pages this is hard-to-impossible. Nux (talk) 10:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hmm, there must be a mechanism for this already, since w:WP:ANI has [subscribe] buttons. I don't know what the mechanism is though. A category or magic word or something? –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:34, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Would it hurt to enable subscribing to H3, H4 on all subscribe-enabled pages? Or do we need some mechanism to choose per-page between none, H2, H3, H4? Pelagic (talk) 16:11, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- I'm thinking automatically enable all. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:43, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- How about customising the entire subscription feature by using a magic word? {{ALLOWSUBS|3}} will only allow h3 subscriptions; {{ALLOWSUBS|3|5}} will allow subscription of h3, h4, h5; {{ALLOWSUBS|+}} will allow subscription at all levels; {{ALLOWSUBS|-}} will not allow subscription at any level. Which of these templates to use can be selected on a case by case basis to suit all and every need. —(ping on reply)—CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 21:33, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Voting
- Support XfDs are like the reason to use the subscription feature, yet they're not supported. Nardog (talk) 18:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support HouseBlaster (talk) 20:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Klein Muçi (talk) 00:51, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support * Pppery * it has begun 03:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Gohan 06:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Femke (talk) 09:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support s a n t a | t a l k | p i t 13:19, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support --NGC 54 (talk|contribs) 21:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Pelagic (talk) 16:07, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Rdrozd (talk) 23:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Sdrqaz (talk) 03:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support SpiderMum (talk) 14:19, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Msz2001 (talk) 15:26, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Gower (talk) 16:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Pyrlandczyk (talk) 16:48, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Ankry (talk) 17:08, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Ptjackyll (talk) 17:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Barkeep49 (talk) 23:00, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support - I've encountered enough discussions (often /subpage transclusions) where I'd like to subscribe but the enabling link is not present. If it's too complex (technically) to enable subscription to sections below H2, perhaps, at minimum, a "soft subscribe link" that landed at the appropriate H2 location could appear at the lower levels.--John Cline (talk) 08:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support INS Pirat (talk) 11:49, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Matma Rex (talk) 22:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Hey man im josh (talk) 17:18, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 17:46, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support —CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 21:24, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support This should be done as there is a need to track actions for lower headers. Thingofme (talk) 02:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support cyrfaw (talk) 14:48, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Bardzo fajne ułatwienie. Powinno być opcjonalne Borys Kozielski (talk) 13:32, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Hans5958 (talk) 05:48, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 11:34, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Yes: If I propose one redirect at RfD I don't want to know about all the other discussions. PamD (talk) 15:35, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Jeeputer (talk) 05:36, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support PMG (talk) 14:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support. —— Eric Liu(Talk) 03:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support masti <talk> 15:06, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Support Maire ♣ 16:58, 24 February 2023 (UTC)