Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Multimedia and Commons/World map extension
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World map extension
- Problem: World maps are a useful means to provide a quick overview in many articles. However, a minority of users are skilled to create and update such maps.
- Proposed solution: It would be handy to have an extension (similar to e.g. Graph or EasyTimeline) for world maps. It would need be possible to assign a color to each country (using codes such as
USA
orITA
). - Who would benefit: Users who don't have SVG editing skills; readers who are shown world maps (that would otherwise not exist).
- More comments: It would make it easier and quicker to create and updated such maps compared to editing SVG files. Examples of the types of maps that could be created and updated using such an extension are found in e.g. Category:SVG political maps of the world.
- Phabricator tickets:
- Proposer: Leyo (talk) 01:16, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Discussion
- I think it should be a module data in Commons to have datas for a chart. We can use the Data: namespace for the chart data. Thingofme (talk) 12:37, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- Could you please elaborate a little more on your suggestion? When I look at the source code of e.g. c:Data:NewYork.map, this does not seem to be easily updatable by everyone. --Leyo (talk) 20:08, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- So it should be updatable by visually taking at the map and draw lines of data, and it would be automatically updated into the source code. Thingofme (talk) 00:40, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Could you please elaborate a little more on your suggestion? When I look at the source code of e.g. c:Data:NewYork.map, this does not seem to be easily updatable by everyone. --Leyo (talk) 20:08, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
- One possible way to help with this would be to extend the SVG Map Maker tool to work for the rest of the world and countries other than USA. SWilson (WMF) (talk) 06:50, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- I am aware of this tool. However, this would not really solve the issue. AFAIK, there is no possibility to load the current map into that tool in order to make an update (e.g. to change the color of one state/country), i.e. each time one would need to start from the scratch. Moreover, there are many tiny countries that are not easily found and clicked in such a graphical interface. --Leyo (talk) 09:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Probably wouldn't be a problem with an additional zooming function. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Probably wouldn't be a problem with an additional zooming function. ~~~~
- I am aware of this tool. However, this would not really solve the issue. AFAIK, there is no possibility to load the current map into that tool in order to make an update (e.g. to change the color of one state/country), i.e. each time one would need to start from the scratch. Moreover, there are many tiny countries that are not easily found and clicked in such a graphical interface. --Leyo (talk) 09:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Leyo & SWilson (WMF), the issue with updating countries on maps pops up regularly in the Map workshop requests. I agree that for a non experienced user a simple change of color of a county on a svg map is impossible. I can suggest two solutions:
- allow upload of css files associated to svg maps. This may be not very convenient but is still easier to update a text file with a country ISO code. A graphical tool to change these codes may help. I proposed this solution previously with the aim to reduce the size of maps as the svg picture of the borders is the same for all maps and only colors change.
- create a graphical tool as proposed earlier by SWilson. I agree with Leyo that the SVG Map Maker tool is not the most convenient. I worked on a similar tool here. that allows to adapt any map from Commons and update it. I still work on it but I tried with few maps and it works quite fine. The only condition is to adapt slightly the svg maps by adding a specific class name to the elements representing shapes of countries to be colored.
- I will be glad to help on this request. --Ikonact (talk) 20:37, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- By the way the tool I created can provide more than just coloring countries but also some basic pie charts, waffle charts or bubble charts. Otherwise this tool in Wikipedia may be used to color code countries on map. --Ikonact (talk) 21:07, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. I wasn't aware of Template:Graph:Map. This is nearly what I was proposing. It has, however, one major drawback: As opposed to an image, there does not seem to be a possibility to add a thumb version of it to an article, whereas the full version is only shown when clicked on. --Leyo (talk) 22:59, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
- I very much recognize this need, I've been trying to push for it inside WMF for a while. Two pieces of context might help. Graphoid was recently decomissioned and there's a stalled effort to bring it back online. This would allow us to render thumbnails to fix the problem @Leyo mentions above. On a parallel track, there's hope that the visualization components we built for Wikistats 2 will be upstreamed to Wikimedia Codex, the new standard design system that we'll use for UI going forward. I just hope we can connect one or both of those efforts to this very real need. Milimetric (WMF) (talk) 13:40, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Would have supported if I had known voting ended at 18 UTC. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:17, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
Voting
- Support Vis M (talk) 21:14, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 21:57, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Javiermes (talk) 22:28, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Sea Cow (talk) 23:10, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Maps are used a lot in Wikipedia, and editing them should be doable. It's currently not. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:51, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Graham11 (talk) 08:59, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Šedý (talk) 10:51, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Aca (talk) 14:43, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Piensaimnieks (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support BSMIsEditing (talk) 15:18, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support rubin16 (talk) 16:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Gusfriend (talk) 00:10, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support TheInternetGnome (talk) 08:16, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Strong support I can make and update maps using Inkscape and some text editing, but having this automatable through structured data would be amazing. OwenBlacker (Talk) 10:57, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support → «« Man77 »» [de] 13:37, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Ikonact (talk) 14:08, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Malexan (talk) 15:39, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Andrewredk (talk) 16:42, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support HynekJanac (talk) 17:31, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Libcub (talk) 22:54, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support JPxG (talk) 00:53, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support CptViraj (talk) 11:30, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support NaBUru38 (talk) 13:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Trizek from FR 13:43, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Hb2007 (talk) 14:26, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 17:52, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Mbkv717 (talk) 20:17, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support JAn Dudík (talk) 21:08, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support We can create a world map data using the Data: namespace in Commons. Thingofme (talk) 09:54, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Bencemac (talk) 11:42, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Daniel Case (talk) 23:25, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Browk2512 (talk) 01:08, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Nk (talk) 15:55, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support ~ Amory (u • t • c) 20:48, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support HouseBlaster (talk) 01:11, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Such a feature could at the same time solve Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Search/Close the outdated WiViVi and reintegrate its key features into Wikimedia Stats. poke @Xavier Dengra: A455bcd9 (talk) 10:30, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Strong support Very much needed. And let's see if the map of Wikimedia Stats can consequently stop ommiting some small countries around the world. Xavier Dengra (MESSAGES) 10:52, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Giacomo Alessandroni let's talk! 14:35, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Betseg (talk) 08:31, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Sturm (talk) 20:32, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support — Bilorv (talk) 20:48, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support - Darwin Ahoy! 00:47, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support —Thanks for the fish! talk•contrib (he/him) 21:48, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support kocio ✉ 00:57, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support--Vulp❯❯❯here! 07:37, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Ayumu Ozaki (talk) 08:11, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support —— Eric Liu(Talk) 09:39, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 15:30, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose --Ciao • Bestoernesto • ✉ 17:12, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Fiver, der Hellseher (talk) 19:55, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support β16 - (talk) 09:49, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support paul2520 (talk) 16:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Tom Ja (talk) 17:43, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support — DaxServer (t · c) 20:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support BugWarp (talk) 00:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Grillofrances (talk) 07:52, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Mregelsberger (talk) 19:39, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support Ecritures (talk) 22:50, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support ZellmerLP (talk) 19:28, 10 February 2022 (UTC)