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Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Larger suggestions/Long Term Abuse tracking

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== Long Term Abuse tracking ==

  • Problem: The current system for tracking Long Term Abuse (LTA) is barely functional. LTA case pages are often abandoned or jammed with IPs from a decade ago. Self-made lists (e.g., en:User:EvergreenFir/socks, en:User:NinjaRobotPirate/Socks) can be helpful but are idiosyncratic and incomplete.
  • Proposed solution: Create a system like Sockpuppet Investigations (SPI) where cases are filed, reviewed, and archived. Adding reporting abilities to Twinkle would be a huge help.
  • Who would benefit: Admins, vandal fighters
  • More comments: Having CheckUsers be able to confirm would be helpful (like SPI) but I imagine this being much more about behavior and geolocation. Maybe a subsection in SPI itself could work.
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: EvergreenFir (talk) 06:04, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

See IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Improving tools#3. A database for documenting long-term abusers. It will be an cross-wiki LTA database. There are several LTA lists allready, one on english wikipedia (en:WP:LTA), one on dutch, and so on.--Snævar (talk) 08:33, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Comment @Zeleni, TheInternetGnome, Kcomerfo, and Thibaut:, pinging supporters. Since this was moved to larger suggestions there’s no guarantee of it passing but especially if you add the low support compared to other suggestions. I suggest to create a user group in meta for long term abuser monitoring, move all the databases from Wikipedia to meta, and this user group will be in charge of maintaining it. It’s possible to ping users monitoring their own lta databases. -Gifnk dlm 2020 From Middle English Wikipedia 📜📖💻 (talk) 07:53, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Snævar and EvergreenFir:, pinging commenter and proposer. -Gifnk dlm 2020 From Middle English Wikipedia 📜📖💻 (talk) 10:51, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, merging to one central LTA list will happen with the "IP editing" project (linked above). Creating an meta list could speed up the proccess, as it has been decided that the "IP editing" central list will be merged by the communities. Just be aware the list will not necessarily remain on meta, although it still will be central. Snævar (talk) 18:06, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Snævar: Is Talk:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Improving tools the place to discuss this? Also please ping me in your reply. -Gifnk dlm 2020 From Middle English Wikipedia 📜📖💻 (talk) 19:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gifnk dlm 2020: Yes and no. The technical aspect needs to be communicated with the "IP editing" team, but merging and maintaining it is entirely upto the community, so the RFC below is good for that. We need to know what format the "IP editing" team wants for the list. Snævar (talk) 00:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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