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Дозволити прив'язувати редиректи до елементів Вікіданих

Скріншот, на якому зображені різні спливні вікна, що вигулькують при наведенні вказівника миші на цільове посилання (стаття «private collection»), у яких пропонуються різні опції Вікіданих. Опції «add/WD» вмикаються за допомогою джава-скрипта, пов'язаного зі списками бота Listeria авторства Магнуса Манске (Magnus Manske).

Мала б бути можливість прив'язати сторінку-перенаправлення у Вікіпедії до елемента Вікіданих, щоб користувачі Вікіпедії при натисканні на посилання, що веде на перенаправлення, отримували спливне віконце з привітанням, яке б пропонувало їм два посилання на вибір, і повідомляло щось на кшталт: <назва перенаправлення> не існує у Вікіпедії; перейти на <цільова стаття перенаправлення> або переглянути <посилання на Q-номер перенаправлення> на Вікіданих. Якщо ввести в дію таку функцію, це дозволить нам 1) визначити, як багато вхідних перенаправлень, що ведуть на певну статтю, є насправді окремими елементами, а не альтернативними написаннями чи щось таке, і 2) полегшити для редакторів розрізнення того, на місці яких перенаправлень потрібно створити нові статті. У випадку великих, збірних понять, таких як en:Insurance, було б добре знати, як багато вхідних посилань-перенаправлень повинні, ймовірно, мати власні, окремі статті. Зверніть увагу, що це не вимагає ніяких технічних змін на Вікіданих, і стосується лише функціоналу перенаправлень у Вікіпедії та в сестринських проектах. Якщо хтось захоче на місці перенаправлення створити статтю, варто буде лише клацнути кнопку «редагувати» — так само, як це роблять і тепер для перетворення сторінок-перенаправлень у статті. Було б непогано, однак, якби елемент Вікіданих якимсь чином зберігався й під час створення статті, щоб опісля така нова стаття автоматично прив'язувалась до цього елемента. Перевагою такого підходу є те, що рішення застосовувати чи не застосовувати цю функцію до певної сторінки-перенаправлення приймає редактор Вікіпедії. Зрозуміло, що не всі сторінки-перенаправлення заслуговують мати прив'язку до елементів Вікіданих, і зазвичай їх краще відсилати безпосередньо на цільову сторінку. Зауважте, що це — не рішення проблеми «Бонні та Клайда», відомої також як завдання T54564 на Фабрикаторі. --Jane023 (talk) 10:25, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Earlier discussion and endorsements
Added an illustration showing some current mouse-over options for blue links. In this proposal I would like to see such navigational options appear for green links, aka redirects. --Jane023 (talk) 15:13, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Голосування

  1. Support Support --Leyo (talk) 23:23, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Support Kvardek du (talk) 09:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support Support Linked to "Alias"?--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    1. No, it's precisely the titles in the Alias part of the Wikidata label that would *not* be eligible for this, as those are just alternate ways of naming the target. --Jane023 (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support Support Even for internal links to existing pages, linking via Wikidata IDs could prove more stable for pages that may be split, merged or renamed. Pengo (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    1. Interesting. That's probably true. --Jane023 (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Support --CennoxX (talk) 22:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:21, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support Support --H4stings (talk) 14:14, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support Support --Tgr (talk) 21:32, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Support --Rahmanuddin (talk) 15:04, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Автоматичний пошук подібних елементів на Вікіданих

У малих Вікіпедіях, де наш робочий колектив сильно обмежений, ми маємо багато сторінок (переважно підсторінки шаблонів та категорії), не прив'язаних до відповідних елементів Вікіданих. Деякі з цих елементів (наприклад, автоматичні таксономічні підсторінки шаблонів) можна знайти в різних мовних версіях, однак це дуже важка робота поприв'язувати їх усіх вручну. Оскільки більшість з них мають однакову структуру, а чимало з них мають навіть однакові назви, може якийсь бот міг би пропонувати відповідні посилання для прив'язки. -Theklan (talk) 22:16, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Earlier discussion and endorsements

Голосування

  1. Support Support--Martinligabue (talk) 15:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Support - Whaledad (talk) 15:23, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support Support - Rupert Clayton (talk) 17:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Support StevenJ81 (talk) 22:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support Support --Oriciu (talk) 00:58, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support Support — NickK (talk) 15:45, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Support – Ham II (sgwrs / talk) 21:19, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:23, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support Support --Urbanecm (talk) 12:34, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Support --Yeza (talk) 10:42, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support Support --Davidpar (talk) 14:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Полегшити створення шаблонів-карток, що відображають інформацію з Вікіданих

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T112987

Зараз немає добре розвинутої системи в різних Вікіпедіях, яка б допомагала користувачам створювати шаблони-картки (у різних Вікіпедіях немає відповідним чином налаштованого шаблона Template:Infobox).

Створення шаблона-картки, що відображає інформацію з Вікіданих є ще важчим завданням: створення шаблона-картки, що показує інформацію з Вікіданих вимагає наявності модулів, написаних на Lua (без цього неможливо зробити так, щоб вікіпосилання працювали коректно). Було б непогано мати один стандартний модуль Lua саме для цієї ситуації, який би обслуговувався та зберігався в якомусь одному центральному місці (напр., на Меті), без необхідності копіювати цей модуль в кожну окрему Вікіпедію та продовжувати обслуговування копії вже там.

Від цього рішення буде зиск як для редакторів, так і для читачів. Більш того — це рішення сприятиме розвиткові Вікіданих, оскільки стане набагато легше використовувати в усіх Вікіпедіях інформацію, що зберігається на Вікіданих.

Пропоноване рішення: впровадити як пропозицію А, так і Б:

А. Розробіть шаблон Template:Infobox, простий у використанні, та такий, що обслуговується в якомусь одному центральному місці.

Б. (Імовірно, дещо легший варіант, ніж А.) Напишіть модуль Lua, який коректно форматує інформацію з Вікіданих (напр., у вікіпедійній статті про місто створює відформатований список міст-побратимів (d:Property:P190), де кожен елемент списку є посиланням на статтю про місто-побратим або, якщо цей мовний розділ Вікіпедії ще не має статті про таке місто-побратим, посилання на елемент Вікіданих про це місто-побратим). Розмістіть цей модуль Lua в центральному місці, де кожна Вікіпедія зможе користуватися ним напряму. --UV (talk) 22:36, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Earlier discussion and endorsements
  • Endorsed Endorsed For now Wikidata has almost no integration with Infoboxes. Scripts are lacking and buggy. Almost no data is used on Wikipedias, which questions importance of Wikidata existence as it's data is of almost no use. Lots of properties on Wikidata are missing because almost no one is using it to fill real Infoboxes on Wikipedias --Ilya (talk) 23:13, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorsed Endorsed Should allow individual language to insert translations. Yosri (talk) 02:22, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • About the globally stored infobox/module, that all Wikipedias can use without copy-paste part - the idea has been proposed several times (can't say by who or when or where). Some cool Wikidata data retrieving infoboxes, that I'm aware of - this one is fully taken from Wikidata (search for insource:/\{\{[Ii]nfobox - osoba\}\}/ in cswiki), also frwiki has some Lua modules for better Wikidata support - this one, for example. --Edgars2007 (talk) 05:36, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorsed Endorsed UV has a very good idea. I work on cycling (more info here), I produce a very big number of photos, and develop five modules (1, 2, 3, 4, 5). French users now work on Wikidata for a part, but the very big problem is I don't know how translate these modules in the other languages because all is different. It is a major problem in Wikipedia. We work together on Commons and on Wikidata, there is no problem, but we are not able to work together on Wikipedia because everybody has their own templates. I think if we solve that problem, we will permet to develop all smaller Wikipedias. Ans even for big Wikipedias it is interesting, because we have people to enter datas, so it is useless to let user do the same work in different country. And if people don't lost time to enter datas, they will can spend time to write, this is very positive for the project and for our readers. More than infoboxes, we will share list of participating teams and cyclists, classifications, team rosters... it will be very interesting when there will have a change, we will save again a big amount of time. I sometimes discuss with foreign users (like Papuass for .lv, Edgars2007), everybody find the idea as interesting, but very few people is able to play with templates and modules. To conclude, this proposal is very important because it will renew our way to work/contribute. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 10:49, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, of course I noticed that discussion at Papuass' talk page :) Latvian has some few problems that one user can't handle, but that isn't discussion for here. And I'm not a Lua coder :) --Edgars2007 (talk) 16:05, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorsed Endorsed. Helder 11:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose. Is blocked by phab:T1238 (Central Code Repository for code used on wikis -- Templates, Lua modules, Gadgets), and hence is not feasible. MER-C (talk) 15:55, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorsed Endorsed--Gbeckmann (talk) 21:37, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • 👍 Like but Oppose Oppose at this time. Some random thoughts gathered from my own experience...
    • Wikidata does not contain all Property information and that should probably be addressed as a high priority 1st.
    • Though a nice idea; however, one size does not fit all (IMHO).
    • The labels in Wikidata for properties might not be useful to produce labels in an infobox if one wants to use a Module to build a complete infobox from scratch.
      • I have seen at least one Wikidata entry with no title or label.
    • The actual data retrieved may not be satisfactory and acceptable for everyone.
    • Accessing Wikidata multiple times to fill in entries of an infobox (multiple template calls for each property) may take a load hit and result in a Lua runtime error.
      • To get to some information one may have to drill down into the Wikidata structure to get the desired data. (to get a currency symbol as an example)
      • One may have also to access multiple Wikidata entities (Objects) to get other desired data as well. (Wikidata entry IDs for sister cities as an example)
    • May need to know the id (Qnnn) if an article is not associated with a Wikidata entry but does in fact have a Wikidata entry.
    • Language translation(s) may be an issue in Wikidata. (Not sure if all languages are incorporated or represented.)
      • In Wikidata use ?setlang=xx in URL to see if other languages exist -- access via a module using mw.language.getContentLanguage(arg1).code
    • Some properties have multiple instances.
      • In some cases, all instances would be relevant (ie. sister cities, bordering countries etc.)
      • Description(s) on the other hand may present a problem. (which one is useful - is it acceptable)
    • There may be code/design changes for wikibase and Wikidata which might result in further issues (are these solid enough?).
    • Use of Unicode characters and internationalisation need to be included in any Module.
    • Sorting of multiple instances and formatting of data output - presents another decision to be made.
    • Accessing a certain or particular data element may be useful (ie. flag, coat of arms, decimal latitude, longitude).
    • Timing of the execution of a template and a module may also present a problem (if other widget/code occur before the actual retrieved data is available). Matroc (talk) 04:55, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Related tasks: phab:T114251 ("Magic Infobox Implementation"), phab:T112987 (Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016 proposal discussing the various options) Cscott (talk) 18:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Голосування

  1. Support Support So far as I know this is the most developed proof of concept - Poof it works. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:39, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Support --Minihaa (talk) 19:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support Support proposal written by myself --UV (talk) 23:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support Support Alleycat80 (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Support --Gbeckmann (talk) 09:07, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support Support--Shizhao (talk) 09:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support Support And a crucial point is to be able to edit Wikidata content from the home wiki ----Candalua (talk) 09:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support Support -Theklan (talk) 14:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Support --Arnd (talk) 14:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support Support--Xabier Cañas (talk) 15:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support Support -- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 15:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Support Wittylama (talk) 15:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support Support - Whaledad (talk) 15:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Support Support Very important. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 15:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support Support --Continua Evoluzione (talk) 15:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Support Support Snipre (talk) 15:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Support Support - Rupert Clayton (talk) 17:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Support Support Papuass (talk) 17:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Support Support--46.225.68.244 17:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Support Support --Artem.komisarenko (talk) 19:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  21. Support Support -- Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:03, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Support Support --Nouill (talk) 21:10, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  23. Support Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  25. Support Support We can gain a lot by maintaining data centrally and being able to link to it from all wikis. Not only in infoboxes, but also in regular text and templates. Especially (integer) numbers, like the number of wins a certain athlete or sports team has. In many smaller wikis these are not updated frequently at all. Also, the same numbers may appear in several different articles within the same wiki. Gap9551 (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  26. Support Support Helder 23:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  27. Support Support --Oriciu (talk) 01:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  28. Support Support Powermelon (talk) 07:09, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  29. Support Support Kvardek du (talk) 09:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  30. Support Support Bgwhite (talk) 09:38, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  31. Support Support This would be a huge win. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  32. Support Support --β16 - (talk) 14:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  33. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  34. Support Support. Especially make it clear to a user that a value is coming from Wikidata and they can add or edit it there — NickK (talk) 16:02, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  35. Support Support – This is very badly needed on cy.wp. Ham II (sgwrs / talk) 18:04, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  36. Comment Comment This is already possible, e.g. see en:Template:Infobox telescope and en:South Pole Telescope via en:Module:Wikidata. Standardisation and making it easier to use (and particularly, making it easier to edit the information used by the template on Wikidata) would be good though. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:28, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  37. Support Support YBG (talk) 06:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  38. Support Support Rzuwig► 11:12, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  39. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:24, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  40. Support Support - B is needed more than A but both would be useful Waggers (talk) 13:42, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  41. Support Support Theredmonkey (talk) 19:17, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  42. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  43. Support Support Halibutt (talk) 00:25, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  44. Support Support J36miles (talk) 00:48, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  45. Support Support --Satdeep Gill (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  46. Support Support --Ochilov (talk) 15:16, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  47. Oppose Oppose, let local communities decide not to use infoboxes for specific fields/articles, how to design them, what to include in them etc. → «« Man77 »» [de] 18:20, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    1. Comment Comment this seems irrelevant: giving communities a feature allowing easy insertion and population of infoboxes from Wikidata does not make those communities do so. You are opposing what is not proposed. Ijon (talk) 09:57, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  48. Comment Comment Man77, I think we can provide the possibility of using centralized data, but nobody would be forced to refer to that data or use a certain layout. No freedom would be lost. Gap9551 (talk) 23:31, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  49. Support Support --ESM (talk) 16:39, 13 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  50. Support Support -- super useful, and currently a bit arcane for most Wikipedians.
  51. Support Support --Davidpar (talk) 14:19, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  52. Support Support --Rahmanuddin (talk) 15:05, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Модифікувати Медіапереглядач так, щоб він використовував інформацію з Вікіданих

Зі статті Вікіпедії en:St. Matthew and the Angel я клацаю на зображенні картини, та бачу в Медіапереглядачі кнопку під назвою «Докладніше», яка веде на Вікісховище. В цьому випадку мала б бути також кнопка для відповідного елемента на Вікіданих, оскільки як стаття, так і зображення стосуються елемента Вікіданих, присвяченого картині — Q9396869. Цей елемент містить інформацію, відмінну від даних, доступних на сторінці файлу на Вікісховищі чи в статті Вікіпедії.

Якщо Медіапереглядач увімкнено, то коли користувач Вікіпедії клацає на зображенні, інформація, яка відображається в Медіапереглядачі, є витягом із Вікісховища. І хоча не усі зображення, що є на Вікісховищі, мають прив'язку до елементів на Вікіданих, і цього, найімовірніше, ніколи не буде, чимало зображень мистецьких робіт, таких як картини та скульптури, мають дуже детальні елементи на Вікіданих, які можуть пропонуватися користувачеві як інформація про зображення його/її рідною мовою. Для знімків, що прив'язані до елементів на Вікіданих, користувачеві має пропонуватися кнопка «Метадані» із логотипом Вікіданих, на додачу до кнопки «Детальніше» з логотипом Вікісховища. Якщо ця функція буде увімкнена, мало б стати легше також додавати номер елемента Вікіданих до усіх зображень в категорії на Вікісховищі (напр., мистецькі роботи мають зображення деталей тощо), тож який би файл не переглядали у Вікіпедії, Медіапереглядач зможе обрати коректний елемент Вікіданих для такого зображення, навіть якщо це не «чільне зображення» для цього елемента на Вікіданих. --Jane023 (talk) 12:51, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Earlier discussion and endorsements
Added an illustration for clarity. I ran into this issue while working on d:Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings. --Jane023 (talk) 09:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Голосування

  1. Support Support Goldzahn (talk) 12:47, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Support--Kippelboy (talk) 05:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support Support Alleycat80 (talk) 09:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support Support --Gbeckmann (talk) 09:12, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Support--Shizhao (talk) 09:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support Support--KRLS (talk) 15:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support Support Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:41, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:24, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support Support Halibutt (talk) 00:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Support --Yeza (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support Support Ijon (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Support Support aegis maelstrom δ 11:14, 14 December 2015 (UTC) Since we have these items and info, we should present it.[reply]

Видимість для вирішення проблем з якістю

На Вікіданих були утворені декілька звітів, що стосуються проблем із якістю у Вікіпедії. Це може бути будь-що — від ймовірно хибної інформації, що надходить з Вікіданих, до відсутності даних, або повідомлень про смерть людей. Такі списки не привертають належної уваги, і, як наслідок, на Вікіданих люди зауважують, що вони не бажають брати до уваги якість якоїсь Вікіпедії. Вікіпедія вважається чорним ящиком, і вона не зацікавлена у своїй власній якості.

При відповідній видимості таких звітів, ми могли б налаштувати співпрацю. Це б підвищило якість усіх та кожного з наших проектів. Необхідні три речі:

  • платформа для таких питань у кожній вікі з прив'язкою до Вікіданих
  • механізм регулярного оновлення списку
  • робочий процес для кожної проблеми

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by GerardM (talk) 20 November 2015

Earlier discussion and endorsements

Голосування

  1. Support Support- GerardM (talk) 05:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Support It would be useful if a notification and link of some kind is created on the talk page of any Wikipedia article where there are quality issues detected on Wikidata, so the editors of the Wikipedia article can be informed as directly as reasonably possible. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Повністю заповнена картка з Вікіданих

Більшість даних все ще вказують у шаблоні-картці статті, тоді як вся така інформація мала б зберігатися та отримуватися з Вікіданих. Треба застосувати такий підхід (в будь-якому порядку):

  • напишіть повноцінний модуль LUA, спроможний збирати будь-яку інформацію (не лише найпростіші дані з одним-єдиним значенням)
  • цю інформацію треба відформатувати відповідно до стандартів конкретного вікі-проекту
  • всю інформацію, яка зараз зберігається в кожному окремому проекті, треба усунути з кожного конкретного вікі-проекту (вилучити) та перемістити її на Вікідані
  • інформація на Вікіданих має дотримуватися стандартів, аби спростити процеси збирання та форматування даних.

Цим можна уникнути неузгодженості в даних між сестринськими проектами чи між різними мовними версіями одного й того ж проекту.

Чудово було б мати спливне вікно, в якому можна було б змінювати/оновлювати будь-які дані шаблона-картки безпосередньо на Вікіданих, при цьому не покидаючи поточного вікі-проекту. --Andyrom75 (talk) 00:13, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Earlier discussion and endorsements
I think this is a candidate for merging with this idea. 👍 Like the idea about pop-up window. Something (basic structure) can be taken from this one. JS coders could create the base structure, that can be adapted for each infobox later by non-JS coders (like just filling the form) --Edgars2007 (talk) 05:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Endorsed Endorsed. Helder 11:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Edgars2007, Helder FYI in Wikivoyage we already use pop-up windows for other purpose. Although they would need further development (especially for language versions customization), they are already enough user friendly. For example see it:voy:Firenze and click on any gray and small "modifica" link. --Andyrom75 (talk) 11:48, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Endorsed Endorsed. In Basque language Wikipedia we have been making some work on this topic. Here you have an example of our last work: eu:Autauga konderria (Alabama). It could be easier, but we need some LUA experts and we lack them. -Theklan (talk) 13:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Information in an Infobox is usually a codified version of the article text. If we transclude the infobox from Wikidata the people who watchlist the article won't know when the infobox changes, and we will have more situations where the infobox contradicts the article text. This is a problem! It could be reduced by amending watchlists so that if you watchlist a page you are informed of changes to its infobox in wikidata. WereSpielChequers (talk) 19:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Endorsed Endorsed--Gbeckmann (talk) 21:10, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Голосування

  1. Support Support -Theklan (talk) 14:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Support - Whaledad (talk) 15:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Support Support if there is a way to ensure that the data is adequately cited. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:34, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Support Support -- FriedhelmW (talk) 17:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Support --Andyrom75 (talk) 18:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support Support - --LINO CORRADI (talk) 20:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support Support --Lkcl it (talk) 21:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Support it would be a great save of time, allowing users to focus on the body of articles. Nice proposal Andyrom! --Nastoshka (talk) 22:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support Support Gap9551 (talk) 22:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support Support Helder 23:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Oppose Oppose This is a huge project even for a single domain. For example, animal taxoboxes juggle a huge number of data fields (e.g. taxonomy, conservation statuses, fossil periods, maps, selection of synonyms, partial view of lower and higher taxons, citation and notes fields), which are displayed in different ways, and different wiki projects favour different, conflicting authorities for their taxonomy trees (not to mention conflicting or outdated models just on English Wikipedia). Ironing out inconsistencies as well as getting conflicting-but-valid models to live harmoniously in Wikidata and then creating Lua templates to replace the taxobox is all a huge task, and that's just for one domain. Other infoboxes will be simpler, but there will still be many challenges in fitting the infobox data into a clean and appropriate Wikidata format and merging it with the redundant, conflicting, sourceless (or source-unknown) data found across Wikipedias. Automation can only take you so far. So while I support the goal of getting more data into Wikidata, this is more realistically a distant goal than a single project. —Pengo (talk) 22:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Comment Comment As I said before: "This is already largely possible: see an example implementation of it at en:South Pole Telescope, through en:Template:Infobox telescope and en:Module:Wikidata. It's still in alpha/beta, though. The main difficulty is finding out which wikidata items need to be added to entries to populate the infobox." Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support Support Theredmonkey (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Support Support the prepbio tool on Toollabs populated the bio infobox, but it would be nice to have this not just once, but on each page load. --Jane023 (talk) 17:00, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Support Support Halibutt (talk) 00:27, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Support Support --Ochilov (talk) 15:17, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Support Support --Davidpar (talk) 14:16, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Підтримка Вікіданих для Вікісловника

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T986

Увімкнути підтримку Вікіданих для додавання інтервікі (етап 1) якомога швидше, хоча б для неосновного простору назв. JAn Dudík (talk) 07:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Earlier discussion and endorsements
Endorsed Endorsed. Helder 11:30, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Endorsed Endorsed. HakanIST (talk) 12:40, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@JAn Dudík: I may be wrong, but don't think, that this is in the team's scope. This probably should get posted here. --Edgars2007 (talk) 16:14, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Endorsed Endorsed Aryamanarora (talk) 18:51, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is on the Wikidata team's list for 2016. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 14:12, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Endorsed Endorsed I still endorse this. It is required high time. --Satdeep Gill (talk) 13:15, 14 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Голосування

  1. Oppose Oppose. Not a Community Tech project. Wikidata has its own developers, and they said in the discussion above that they will implement this next year. MER-C (talk) 09:43, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support Support. --MGChecker (talk)
  3. Support Support, we really need this as soon as possible. --Impériale (talk) 00:33, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Oppose Oppose as MER-C: Wikibase development is best handled by WMDE. --Ricordisamoa 06:46, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Support Support. I do not know if this is the place to push this idea, but this will be a giant step forward for wiktionary when this feature will be implemented. So many data redundancies and inconsistencies would be avoided in this project. --Gloumouth1 (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Support Support - Whaledad (talk) 15:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Support Support The sooner the better. JackPotte (talk) 16:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Oppose Oppose as MER-C; out of scope, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support Support as soon as possible. --Lyokoï88 (talk) 16:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. Support Support Pamputt (talk) 17:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Support Support There is no reason for waiting. Interwiki should be easily to integrate. --Yoursmile (talk) 18:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support Support  Trizek from FR 22:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support Support--Manlleus (talk) 15:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Support Support --Almondega (talk) 12:25, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support Support Theredmonkey (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Support Support --Urbanecm (talk) 12:35, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Support Support--Satdeep Gill (talk) 15:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Support Support --HakanIST (talk) 14:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Support Support --Rahmanuddin (talk) 15:08, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Support Support wikidata change the whole wiktionary for good--Esceptic0 (talk) 21:39, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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