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We might also want to try to think of an international logo for Wikipedia which is neutral to language. I wouldn't object to the word Wikipedia being used though... --Chuck Smith

Maybe, but it's slightly nonsensical, in the sense that it seems that the greatest push to make Wikipedia completely language-neutral is coming from all the English speakers. "I wouldn't object to the word Wikipedia being used"? I should hope not.--Anon

I disagree with the idea "the greatest push seems to be coming from english-speaking langage". I think this a little bit insulting given the energy I have been putting in these issues in the past month. I think Giskart will also appreciate this comment. I agree many english-speakers are *very* willing to go in that direction, and are doing a lot, and this is really great.
But when Giskart wrote this and when I wrote this, there were no international homepage on meta, no page written by any international here I believe, no embassies, no options for settings, only one international wiki in phase III... My thanks go to all the international that took time to raise the matters on the main list. And of course to all the english ones. We are *very small* wikis, we are still struggling to get the basics done, we are not very numerous here to state our concerns, and few people can't do much. Maybe we don't "deserve" equal representation because of our size, but stating we are not really involved in the evolution towards more representativity than before is gross misconception. anthere

I also disagree with Anon. Anthere and Giskart were the first people even to mention that there was a problem in this regard. Sadly at first I was one of the many English Wikipedians who just brushed-off their concerns as being over-inflated or even as being unfair to the en.wiki community. But through the process of trying to understand why there was a Spanish fork I began to realize how important these perception issues are to the non-English Wikipedians. Up until very recently the non-English Wikipedias were really just afterthoughts and the concerns of non-English Wikipedians were not being addressed. In short they were being treated like second class Wikipediacitizens. Now, I hope, we are in the process of changing that. See a copy of my letter to the community on this at; User:Maveric49/commentary also see all the threads about the Spanish Wikipedia, the Wikipedia family, and discussion about moving the English Wikipedia to en.wikipedia here.--Maveric149


At the Esperanto wiki we're currently discussing the form of an ad we're hoping to take out in Pasporta Servo; the main question being whether to use the current logo (a straight translation of the English wikipedia logo) in the ad. Aside from the fact that I don't think it would look so good squished down to the 5x3.75cm print size of this tiny advertisement, I'm currently favoring a text-based approach which has the Wikipedia name in several writing systems, presently Latin/English, Cyrillic, Latin/Esperanto, Japanese, and Korean. (The "Vikipedio" form is made most prominent because, of course, we're trying to push the Esperanto edition. ;)

I don't know if something in that direction can or should be used as a logo, but it's something to consider. It explicitly emphasizes the multilingual aspect of the project; of course the "the free encyclopedia" bit is still audience-language-dependent (and probably should be). On the other hand, "text in a globe" is distinctive as well... personally if I'd been around when the present logo voting was being done, I'd have gone for the blue one which by happenstance is the one currently displaying here on meta. --Brion VIBBER 06:47 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)


Logo in the interface

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Another question is on the user interface; the Cologne Blue skin does not use the logo and presently has no real place for it. Do we want an alternate-form logo that fits in there? Or... something? --Brion VIBBER 06:47 Oct 23, 2002 (UTC)


See also the old Logo suggestions discussions.